We have had some very difficult times

[boston bean]

23. I think what you say is quite good.

I too have tried in the past to do the same, but the same old bullshit was flung from long ago disputes, which became quite personal.

I really do not like that, and I really don't like doing it to others. But sometimes it felt like a matter of survival.

But when a branch is offered, I think the best thing to do is accept it and move on and admit ones own mistakes. I'm not sure how much agreement we will have on the actual solutions to the issue, but I do think that with many we agree that there is a problem. Then there are others, all of this will mean diddly squat to, and they will make themselves known sooner rather than later. To that, I think we just need to ignore and try not to engage. But that will be a test for us all. Because some of it is just plain old mean.