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18. Not really. The constitution is clear. We either honor it, or take another step towards the constitution not mattering

Reply to IzzaNuDay (Reply #17)

Sun Jan 5, 2025, 05:47 PM

Jan 5

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

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Donald Trump Critics Push Plan to Block Him From Taking Power in DC Protest [View all] BumRushDaShow Jan 5 OP

Regardless of what you think of it, Donald's earned it. bucolic_frolic Jan 5 #1

Regardless of what you think of it, the constitution's language, until amended, is clear: ColinC Jan 5 #6

TFG saying he wants to free the J6 rioters is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. OMGWTF Jan 5 #21

Yep. This aside, he has unquestionably given aid and comfort to the enemy, having likely shared classified info ColinC Jan 5 #22

I've thought for a long time the FBI knows what TSF has shared with Putin KS Toronado Jan 5 #44

Yes, they know what he kept and did whatever with... Think. Again. Jan 6 #56

And who got or bought access to all those documents. yorkster Jan 6 #54

Almost EVERYONE who receives a pardon (except Nixon and Hunter Biden AFAIK) has been tried and kelly1mm Jan 6 #53

Is there a conviction for this? Unladen Swallow Jan 5 #26

No. Just several indictments. But that's not a necessary prerequisite ColinC Jan 5 #30

Then who, or what body, makes the determination Unladen Swallow Jan 5 #32

Congress has that authority. ColinC Jan 5 #33

So the people will accept this ruling under the Constitution? Unladen Swallow Jan 5 #40

There is no process. ColinC Jan 5 #42

Exactly correct. 14A was a Reconstruction Era gift to future generations bucolic_frolic Jan 6 #65

they use the term "adjudicated" -- I think from the Colorado Supreme Court ruling cadoman Jan 6 #70

"An effort is underway to urge Congress ..." speak easy Jan 5 #2

Unfortunitly true yankee87 Jan 5 #39

The Picketts Charge theory of politics speak easy Jan 6 #59

Any effort to resist installing a nazi administration is worthwhile. Think. Again. Jan 6 #57

That is what the US Constitution says,... magicarpet Jan 5 #3

.... recording the displeasure of the citizenry,... magicarpet Jan 5 #4

Yes, protests must be strong, courageous, and often. Magoo48 Jan 5 #14

I'm in Palm Springs which is geezerville now that the snowbirds are here (including me). OMGWTF Jan 5 #23

Yup Magoo48 Jan 6 #64

I'm so happy to hear this is happening William Seger Jan 5 #5

Such a load of nonsense. He hasnt been CONVICTED of any of those charges. Period. Callie1979 Jan 5 #7

The Constitution doesn't require a conviction. bucolic_frolic Jan 5 #10

Well, we USED to do a lot of things differently.Yes, the SCOTUS is full of it but thats what we've got. Callie1979 Jan 5 #11

No, it's quite credible.There is legitimacy behind the protests because everyone saw him do it. bucolic_frolic Jan 5 #13

nearly half the voters saw it and voted for him though cadoman Jan 6 #72

The SC didn't rule that TFG was eligible or that the 14th doesn't apply William Seger Jan 5 #15

Thats not going to happen either. Callie1979 Jan 5 #16

True, but the point of the protests is that he could and should be disqualified William Seger Jan 5 #24

Congress already found that he engaged in an insurrection NYC Liberal Jan 5 #34

An argument can be made that it has to fit the definition of a conviction in the Senate Polybius Jan 5 #35

An argument can be made that the amendment means only what it says William Seger Jan 6 #55

The problem with the 14th and many other Amendments is that the wording stinks Polybius Jan 6 #76

That was a previous congress. MichMan Jan 5 #46

There will be instigators in their midst Unladen Swallow Jan 5 #27

Yep, that's to be expected with every Left action. Think. Again. Jan 6 #58

If it was to succeed there would be a civil war anyway MichMan Jan 6 #62

That is a very sobering Unladen Swallow Jan 6 #63

Garland, Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Barrett Clouds Passing Jan 5 #8

Yep; there's the problem. For a LOT of issues. Callie1979 Jan 5 #12

Biggest weather event in the history of DC on multigraincracker Jan 5 #9

how about -50F or an F6 twister? The Madcap Jan 5 #19

I wish Taylor Swift would hold a concert down the street. Callie1979 Jan 5 #25

Protesting now is a little bit too late IzzaNuDay Jan 5 #17

Not really. The constitution is clear. We either honor it, or take another step towards the constitution not mattering ColinC Jan 5 #18

After tomorrow is definitely too late though Polybius Jan 5 #36

Yeah. And i mean... The constitution just needs to be followed. ColinC Jan 6 #51

It is self executing... Dem4life1970 Jan 6 #47

At the very least congress should override the requirement by a 2/3rds vote. ColinC Jan 6 #48

This was a most unusual election in many ways MichMan Jan 6 #52

I heard as lawyer who think's Trump should be disqualified say that he agrees with the CO decision Polybius Jan 6 #75

If they attack the Capitol, maybe Trump will pardon them ... Jarqui Jan 5 #20

Free speech and non-violent protest is what this country is all about. Petitioning of grievances is important always. nt Evolve Dammit Jan 5 #28

If it goes on deaf ears The Grand Illuminist Jan 5 #43

"Critics of President-elect Donald Trump have taken to the streets of Washington, D.C. ..." mahatmakanejeeves Jan 5 #29

There was a little group out there at the Lincoln Memorial BumRushDaShow Jan 5 #31

Isn't that pretty much an everyday occurance? LeftInTX Jan 6 #84

Sure BumRushDaShow Jan 6 #86

President Vance? Jose Garcia Jan 5 #37

I'll take it. Because he won't be able to win over the Trumpers. Republicans in disarray ZonkerHarris Jan 5 #41

As explained, it would be Harris ColinC Jan 6 #49

She only received 226 electoral votes Jose Garcia Jan 6 #66

It is if all or most of Trumps votes are not certified. ColinC Jan 6 #68

If neither candidate receives a majority of electoral votes, Jose Garcia Jan 6 #69

So if he's disqualified, who gets to be President on the 20th? Polybius Jan 5 #38

Harris MichMan Jan 5 #45

The exception being holding a 2/3rds vote to make an exception. ColinC Jan 6 #50

They may admit it if Vance becomes President as a result of Trump's disqualification Polybius Jan 6 #74

That would be a double punch for who the majority of voters elected Polybius Jan 6 #73

I can see the Constitution being locked away into a time vault Aussie105 Jan 6 #60

The 14th also applies to Congress MichMan Jan 6 #61

According to the Constitution, Trump is a traitor: He should be hanged until he is dead, dead, dead. jvill Jan 6 #67

It will take unquestionably devoted courageous people The Grand Illuminist Jan 6 #71

Well it's over. The plan to block him did not work. The election was just certified. totodeinhere Jan 6 #77

What plan? LeftInTX Jan 6 #79

The plan that is the subject of this thread. n/t totodeinhere Jan 6 #81

Yeah.. More like a thought . LeftInTX Jan 6 #83

The 2022 Electoral Count Reform Act, which amended the previous Act(s) BumRushDaShow Jan 6 #80

Yes. Of course Trump's attempted coup was the catalyst behind that law. n/t totodeinhere Jan 6 #82

We screw ourselves a lot by passing laws that we think will help us Polybius Jan 6 #85

Objections, in this case are usually formalities, LeftInTX Jan 6 #87

This aged well!! LeftInTX Jan 6 #78