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Ford_Prefect

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7. Wasn't there an estimate by the GAO or someone else that removing foreign workers as proposed will cost wayyyyyy more?
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 03:02 PM
Dec 2024

That is the cost of collecting and deporting them, plus the impact it will have on agriculture and other production, along with lost local , state and federal income taxes and social security payments. Which is to say nothing of the effect the on the U.S. economy losing their collective and individual spending on goods and services.

What has Mr. "Poisoning the Blood" have to say about that figure?

Back in 2015 one source put it this way:

Depending on how the government conducts its apprehensions, it would need to spend $100 billion to $300 billion arresting and removing all undocumented immigrants residing in the country, a process that we estimate would take 20 years. In addition, to prevent any new undocumented immigrants going forward, the government would at a minimum have to maintain current immigration enforcement levels. This results in an additional $315 billion in continuing enforcement costs over that time period.

Not only would enforcing current law cost taxpayers, it would also burden the economy. Removing all undocumented immigrants would cause the labor force to shrink by 6.4 percent, which translates to a loss of 11 million workers. As a result, 20 years from now the economy would be nearly 6 percent or $1.6 trillion smaller than it would be if the government did not remove all undocumented immigrants. While this impact would be found throughout the economy, the agriculture, construction, retail and hospitality sectors would be especially strongly affected.

https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/the-budgetary-and-economic-costs-of-addressing-unauthorized-immigration-alt/

I strongly suspect it will cost far more in 2025 money. That might influence a few elections, no?

A more contemporary source paints an even more complicated, expensive, and dire picture: https://immigrationimpact.com/2024/10/02/report-costs-mass-deportation-immigration/

The report from the American Immigration Council finds that an effort to arrest, detain, process, and remove one million undocumented immigrants per year would cost the U.S. government at least $88 billion per year, ultimately adding up to nearly one trillion dollars in taxpayer costs.

Beyond fiscal costs, the report details how the U.S. economy would suffer if 4% of the workforce was deported. U.S. Gross Domestic Product (GDP) would drop anywhere from 4.2% to 6.8%. By comparison, the U.S. GDP shrank by 4.3% during the Great Recession between 2007 and 2009.

While some politicians treat mass deportations as a simple operation, the report breaks down the process and explains how ramping up each aspect — from arrest, to detention, to processing, to removal — would require an enormous infusion of resources and personnel at extreme costs. The costs of even a single year of a million-deportation regime would be enough to cover nearly twice the annual budget of the National Institute for Health and 18 times more than the entire world currently spends on cancer research each year.

To find and arrest a population of over 13.3 undocumented immigrants would require the government to mobilize anywhere from 212,000 to 409,000 new government employees and law enforcement officers. Even an operation to carry out one million arrests per year would require U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to hire at least 31,000 new employees at an annual cost of at least $6.2 billion per year, nearly as much as ICE’s entire current budget. These estimates are likely conservative, as they don’t account for any of the additional human resources costs, technology costs, legal costs, and other secondary costs which would be incurred by a strategy of mass hiring followed by mass apprehensions in communities.


I have the feeling that the emphasis on this horrible and outrageously expensive pogrom is more by the way of using the alleged emergency to fund new agencies by stealing the money from other established programs, as well as providing a "national emergency" excuse for 45 to bypass Congress, the Constitution, federal and state laws.

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Hate costs a lot of money. Republicans will pay for it by cutting "entitlement" programs. sop Dec 2024 #1
All while giving themselves a sizeable raise. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2024 #21
That adds up to a lot of Social Security checks. Midnight Writer Dec 2024 #2
The Homan Billion Dollar Boondoggle. magicarpet Dec 2024 #3
Yes the Trump regime is totally corrupt. Most of this money will go to their personal accounts. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #5
Perhaps, we could get them to have Mexico pay for it. Magoo48 Dec 2024 #17
This is why the Love Lives On Act can't cpamomfromtexas Dec 2024 #4
As soon as we kick all those moochers off of SNAP, WIC, the VA. Ray Bruns Dec 2024 #6
don't forget the "bitcoin reserve" rampartd Dec 2024 #8
Gyptocurrency. 😠 oasis Dec 2024 #33
a good name for if rampartd Dec 2024 #34
Wasn't there an estimate by the GAO or someone else that removing foreign workers as proposed will cost wayyyyyy more? Ford_Prefect Dec 2024 #7
Yes. "Eighty-six billion [dollars] is a start," Homan said without mentioning an end. "We need at least that." SunSeeker Dec 2024 #11
You can bet that won't be going through the Elon/Vivek/MTG cost-cutting DOGE. keithbvadu2 Dec 2024 #9
These miserable f*cks NotHardly Dec 2024 #10
Take it out of Red State Old Crank Dec 2024 #12
This is what this asshole is thinking about on Christmas Eve? How much his cruelty will cost? Ohioboy Dec 2024 #13
Texas and Florida are so stressed about undocumented immigrants, why not deduct it from their share of FEMA funds? 33taw Dec 2024 #14
TX & OK can split the bill. Lemons UK Dec 2024 #15
Archie! Cthulu on call Dec 2024 #16
How much of that money will go to subcontractors? Those who connected to Homan? Probatim Dec 2024 #18
Elizabeth Warren was quoted as saying tsf deportation of millions will cost 167 billion...get ready maga to PortTack Dec 2024 #19
Well, if they're the ones who want it so badly calimary Dec 2024 #22
The word which will be associated with Felon47 and his henchmen is "demands." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2024 #20
Excellent point. calimary Dec 2024 #23
Like one of my old Master Chiefs used to say maxrandb Dec 2024 #24
OLD Master Chief? BOSSHOG Dec 2024 #26
Had a Chief from Kansas, and when stuff got stupid maxrandb Dec 2024 #27
And the national education continues. republianmushroom Dec 2024 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #28
$86 billion LudwigPastorius Dec 2024 #29
There's this guy who advertises timeshare cancellation on the SiriusXM sports channels... jmowreader Dec 2024 #30
Call it what it really is Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #31
Anybody else noticed that Republicans Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #32
They'll be able to pass funding for it by using Reconciliation. maxsolomon Dec 2024 #35
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