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81. Democrats play Chinese checkers. Republicans play Hungry, Hungry Hippos.

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She Won. They Didn't Just Change the Machines. They Rewired the Election. [View all] Botany Jun 18 OP

Kick musette_sf Jun 18 #1

Yup they did. SheltieLover Jun 18 #2

Not good. No sense in having another presidential election since they've figured out... brush Jun 18 #29

They've been stealing and cheating since they lost of the Civil War. Clouds Passing Jun 19 #116

I think it boils down DENVERPOPS Jun 19 #149

No!! It's time to fight like hell for fair, UNCHEATABLE, elections. We can do this! BComplex Jun 19 #123

It feels like the truth is on the way.... FarPoint Jun 18 #37

"The election never passed my smell test."..When the aged tfg said at one of his rally's "no need to vote.... mitch96 Jun 18 #58

And Eloon pondering on air how long of a prison sentence he'd get if T💩p didn't win the election. OMGWTF Jun 19 #119

This makes so much sense to me. ananda Jun 18 #3

Post removed Post removed Jun 18 #4

Rude FirstLight Jun 18 #5

Sometimes the truth hurts. These ridiculous conspiracy theories are no different from the garbage pushed by MAGA tritsofme Jun 18 #6

No not really... FirstLight Jun 18 #13

That may be true, but it doesn't make these delusional conspiracy theories any more accurate. tritsofme Jun 18 #18

Gee, too bad you don't like this discussion. Kingofalldems Jun 18 #21

I actually kind of enjoy these threads. tritsofme Jun 18 #23

You're being insulting. returnee Jun 19 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jun 18 #46

And what is your source that this story is garbage? dchill Jun 18 #38

Did you read the article and attachments or just pass judgment on it? waterwatcher123 Jun 18 #53

Just as an aside....Space X has a collaborative contract with T-mobile Melon Friday #163

Some of the anomalies have been pointed out by a group of statistics professors. pnwmom Jun 19 #137

Newsweek is reporting serious problems, not "ridiculous conspiracy theories." pnwmom Jun 19 #159

Wow I hadn't heard that TacosUberAlles Jun 19 #161

Thank you. And welcome to DU! nt pnwmom Friday #162

Well thank you TacosUberAlles Friday #167

If there's evidence, nobody has presented it EdmondDantes_ Jun 18 #15

Why should American citizens need any "evidence " to count the votes in an open transparent manner? questionseverything Jun 18 #32

They were counted in an open and transparent manner EdmondDantes_ Jun 18 #49

By open... Chemical Bill Jun 18 #75

I mean the exact same way in 2020, 2016, 2012, 2008 EdmondDantes_ Jun 18 #84

The article the op is discussing tells us many machines were certified w/o inspections even though "patches " were added questionseverything Jun 18 #86

The certifying agencies have access to the software Abnredleg Jun 19 #129

I'm happy for you that you are so trusting. n/t Chemical Bill Jun 19 #148

And in 2020 repubs challenged Georgia's results and a hand count was done questionseverything Jun 18 #88

Agreed WOLFMAN87 Jun 18 #45

A recount would provide the only evidence. Chemical Bill Jun 18 #76

A machine recount proves nothing. MuirHero Jun 18 #90

Plus... Chemical Bill Jun 19 #103

Almost all states did hand counts during their post-election audits Abnredleg Jun 19 #132

Sure, here and there. Chemical Bill Jun 19 #146

No - Risk Reduction Audits are very thorough Abnredleg Jun 19 #151

The month before the election DENVERPOPS Jun 18 #7

The legit media isn't going to run after these theories like RWers do. ificandream Jun 18 #8

Well, we've already heard from Marc Elias, the foremost authority on Republican election shenanigans tritsofme Jun 18 #12

I trust Marc. BUT bluestarone Jun 18 #30

I have never disagreed with him before... returnee Jun 19 #156

Those "experts" like Marc Elias do not understand computer voting annielion Jun 19 #118

Two highly respected journalist already have DENVERPOPS Jun 18 #25

Yep, titled. Trump Lost. Vote Suppression Won. DiamondShark Jun 18 #70

Not sure, DENVERPOPS Jun 18 #78

Here try this one DENVERPOPS Jun 18 #80

Joesph Stalin Botany Jun 19 #120

They way that Trump is already DENVERPOPS Jun 19 #144

What we really need is another Mark Felt. ShazzieB Jun 18 #27

When this current admin falls apart (which is happening), we'll have some whistleblowers coming forward! liberalla Jun 18 #74

I believe you are right! ShazzieB Jun 19 #127

Does Newsweek count? Chemical Bill Jun 18 #77

And according to the article Leonard Leo's sale of Tripp Lite to Eaton put Theil (and Musk ?) into .. Botany Jun 18 #9

He said that knowing that the theft is untraceable. live love laugh Jun 18 #47

The theft would be uncovered by a hand recount of the ballots. MuirHero Jun 18 #93

I figured they lost a bunch of democratic mail in votes Tribetime Jun 18 #10

I haven't wanted to go here because mountain grammy Jun 18 #11

VP Harris own internal polling never had her winning bottomofthehill Jun 19 #101

My post from last year. spike jones Jun 18 #14

I've programmed ES&S machines. DiamondShark Jun 18 #67

I hear that mountain grammy Jun 18 #82

Also Diebold IP was sold to Dominion after ES&S was accused of being a monopoly. DiamondShark Jun 18 #68

Glad to see this getting more traction. Everyone needs to read it. Karasu Jun 18 #16

Why didn't they fight then? Crunchy Frog Jun 18 #17

Exactly. There are really only two options here, that either Harris and her billion dollar campaign were just too stupid tritsofme Jun 18 #22

Hey, the Dems literally rolled over DENVERPOPS Jun 18 #26

Dems always roll over when there is suspected election fraud ERW Jun 18 #55

If this is the case then we need better quality Dems. Crunchy Frog Jun 18 #63

Some of us on this forum were jumping up and down after the election, yellow dahlia Jun 18 #64

I always just assumed that their own internal polling Crunchy Frog Jun 18 #66

I believe the Ann Selzer poll was correct. yellow dahlia Jun 19 #153

The hand counts occurred during the audits Abnredleg Jun 19 #133

they may have realized, DENVERPOPS Jun 19 #147

not a comment on the legitimacy of the election but Skittles Jun 18 #83

I think I speak for many here. BidenRocks Jun 18 #19

Watch out-----here they come! Kingofalldems Jun 18 #20

Yes, and let us hope that karma is coming for them all. Joinfortmill Jun 18 #24

There's your fraud Evolve Dammit Jun 18 #28

Election rso Jun 18 #31

The vote counting companies say the working mechanisms are proprietary questionseverything Jun 18 #36

Elections rso Jun 18 #69

The 3 letter agencies are disappearing people, even citizens so questionseverything Jun 18 #85

Elections rso Jun 18 #87

Are these agencies full of super humans that can look into a puter and read it's software? questionseverything Jun 18 #89

Elections rso Jun 19 #115

In a democracy, the people have the right to oversee the counting of our votes questionseverything Jun 19 #125

Elections rso Jun 19 #131

Actually this sub thread started with you claiming I should trust the alphabet agencies questionseverything Jun 19 #145

Elections rso Jun 19 #160

Precinct by precinct is best questionseverything Monday #168

The certifying agencies have access to the source code Abnredleg Jun 19 #128

That's not what the voting companies or any us agency says questionseverything Jun 19 #134

The Voting System Test Laboratory does a code review Abnredleg Jun 19 #138

... questionseverything Jun 19 #142

I did read it Abnredleg Jun 19 #150

Eavesdropping on comms WITHIN the US is generally illegal, without a specific warrant. eppur_se_muova Jun 19 #96

Democrats play checkers, Republicans play chess DSandra Jun 18 #33

Republicans don't play chess. dchill Jun 18 #41

Still, we have to stop just being on defense because defense alone is bound to fail DSandra Jun 18 #44

Dems had the option to challenge the ballots before the election was certified. Party leaders refused DSandra Jun 18 #52

Democrats play Chinese checkers. Republicans play Hungry, Hungry Hippos. meadowlander Jun 18 #81

I never doubted it-- something was off-- WAY off ailsagirl Jun 18 #34

And still is. dchill Jun 18 #42

Does anyone know if... ailsagirl Jun 18 #61

From what I've researched from the past two weeks, the numbers are way-too-strange. chouchou Jun 18 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Jacson6 Jun 18 #39

I have no idea, but hamsterjill Jun 18 #40

Been said before and worth EVERYONE saying again - Lokee11 Jun 19 #112

Sorry but Abstractartist Jun 18 #43

That's the thing, most places have paper ballots but it takes a court order to hand count them questionseverything Jun 18 #91

Yes Abstractartist Jun 19 #109

But those same states do audits Abnredleg Jun 19 #135

You are saying things that aren't true questionseverything Jun 19 #136

We're talking a handful of precincts in NY Abnredleg Jun 19 #139

If the machine can be wrong in on precinct it can be wrong in any precinct questionseverything Jun 19 #143

The audit process is public Abnredleg Jun 19 #152

My question is, if it's true, what can be realistically done? Buddyzbuddy Jun 18 #48

That's the bottom line. Xavier Breath Jun 18 #56

More to the point... regnaD kciN Jun 18 #59

We're always 1 step behind. Buddyzbuddy Jun 19 #99

Yes. Do we understand it enough to stop it in 2026? GoodRaisin Jun 19 #141

IMHO, we as, Democrats need to plan for the worst case scenario. Buddyzbuddy Jun 19 #157

This DIGITAL AMBUSH OF ELECTIONS will continue until it's stopped by high turnout in all battlegrounds. ancianita Jun 18 #50

Cheaters gonna cheat, we've got an unelected rodent for president...I've said this since the "election"... wcmagumba Jun 18 #51

We wuz robbed again? czarjak Jun 18 #54

I believe Greg Palast has the answer - MaineNative Jun 18 #57

Time for a Rachel special on this or CNN or PBS Jit423 Jun 18 #60

Let me hop in a time machine... DiamondShark Jun 18 #71

So stolen! And, guess who owns Eaton- Quakerfriend Jun 18 #62

We need to keep talking about all the evidence and data that have been revealed in recent months. yellow dahlia Jun 18 #65

I woke up one night after the election and thought the same thing is they manipulated the tabulation kimbutgar Jun 18 #72

I'm saying bluestarone Jun 18 #73

Here is what I'll say to those who are saying this is just simple nuttery Picaro Jun 18 #79

THIS. It's utterly ridiculous to see people here comparing this to RW conspiracy theories. The RW are people who have a Karasu Jun 18 #92

Network security protocols for election equipment are pretty rigorous Abnredleg Jun 19 #154

So that's why he's doing such a shitty job? kentuck Jun 18 #94

The 2000 election was stolen. PufPuf23 Jun 19 #95

There was an interesting article B.See Jun 19 #97

Rove openly stated that they can and would cheat IbogaProject Jun 19 #98

And now there's AI . that'll be manipulated in their favor somehow. IcyPeas Jun 19 #100

That may very well be but there isn't anything to be done about it. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 19 #102

At the very least we need to know if our election process is safe neohippie Jun 19 #110

Well, I'm glad someone is looking into it. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 19 #111

Maybe we can make the next election count transparent? questionseverything Jun 19 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 19 #104

What information do you lack? marble falls Jun 19 #124

WTF did people sat back in 2000 HarryM Jun 19 #105

when people say they voted for someone and the count shows 0 then somethings not right samnsara Jun 19 #106

Interestingly, I have seem nearly exactly the same arguments made about the 2020 election hueymahl Jun 19 #107

Russian tail Kali999 Jun 19 #108

K&R spanone Jun 19 #113

Part 2 ...... they had the courts too. Just as important as part 1. Please give it some love. Botany Jun 19 #114

The statisticians have the evidence of massive vote manipulation annielion Jun 19 #117

Palantir is a truly fucking evil corporation. Peter Theil needs to be hauled off to Supermax now. Initech Jun 19 #121

Thank you, Botany!! This is something that so many have ignored for so long. 2024 was so obviously rigged/stolen. BComplex Jun 19 #122

The truth matters. Six117 Jun 19 #126

truth always matters B.See Friday #164

The people who rail that this is just a conspiracy theory are really not looking at the obvious. hadEnuf Jun 19 #140

They were busted red handed in 2020. Kid Berwyn Jun 19 #158

Is the DTC thing real? If so wow. JanMichael Friday #165

It wasn't with the voting machine but the central tabulators which if you believe this sub stack piece had ... Botany Friday #166