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9. And according to the article Leonard Leo's sale of Tripp Lite to Eaton put Theil (and Musk ?) into ..

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Wed Jun 18, 2025, 05:51 PM

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… the central tabulators.

Trump, “Musk is good with those vote counting computers.” aka Central Tabulators.

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She Won. They Didn't Just Change the Machines. They Rewired the Election. [View all] Botany Wednesday OP

Kick musette_sf Wednesday #1

Yup they did. SheltieLover Wednesday #2

Not good. No sense in having another presidential election since they've figured out... brush Wednesday #29

They've been stealing and cheating since they lost of the Civil War. Clouds Passing Thursday #116

I think it boils down DENVERPOPS Thursday #149

No!! It's time to fight like hell for fair, UNCHEATABLE, elections. We can do this! BComplex Thursday #123

It feels like the truth is on the way.... FarPoint Wednesday #37

"The election never passed my smell test."..When the aged tfg said at one of his rally's "no need to vote.... mitch96 Wednesday #58

And Eloon pondering on air how long of a prison sentence he'd get if T💩p didn't win the election. OMGWTF Thursday #119

This makes so much sense to me. ananda Wednesday #3

Post removed Post removed Wednesday #4

Rude FirstLight Wednesday #5

Sometimes the truth hurts. These ridiculous conspiracy theories are no different from the garbage pushed by MAGA tritsofme Wednesday #6

No not really... FirstLight Wednesday #13

That may be true, but it doesn't make these delusional conspiracy theories any more accurate. tritsofme Wednesday #18

Gee, too bad you don't like this discussion. Kingofalldems Wednesday #21

I actually kind of enjoy these threads. tritsofme Wednesday #23

You're being insulting. returnee Thursday #155

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Wednesday #46

And what is your source that this story is garbage? dchill Wednesday #38

Did you read the article and attachments or just pass judgment on it? waterwatcher123 Wednesday #53

Just as an aside....Space X has a collaborative contract with T-mobile Melon Friday #163

Some of the anomalies have been pointed out by a group of statistics professors. pnwmom Thursday #137

Newsweek is reporting serious problems, not "ridiculous conspiracy theories." pnwmom Thursday #159

Wow I hadn't heard that TacosUberAlles Thursday #161

Thank you. And welcome to DU! nt pnwmom Friday #162

Well thank you TacosUberAlles Friday #167

If there's evidence, nobody has presented it EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #15

Why should American citizens need any "evidence " to count the votes in an open transparent manner? questionseverything Wednesday #32

They were counted in an open and transparent manner EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #49

By open... Chemical Bill Wednesday #75

I mean the exact same way in 2020, 2016, 2012, 2008 EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #84

The article the op is discussing tells us many machines were certified w/o inspections even though "patches " were added questionseverything Wednesday #86

The certifying agencies have access to the software Abnredleg Thursday #129

I'm happy for you that you are so trusting. n/t Chemical Bill Thursday #148

And in 2020 repubs challenged Georgia's results and a hand count was done questionseverything Wednesday #88

Agreed WOLFMAN87 Wednesday #45

A recount would provide the only evidence. Chemical Bill Wednesday #76

A machine recount proves nothing. MuirHero Wednesday #90

Plus... Chemical Bill Thursday #103

Almost all states did hand counts during their post-election audits Abnredleg Thursday #132

Sure, here and there. Chemical Bill Thursday #146

No - Risk Reduction Audits are very thorough Abnredleg Thursday #151

The month before the election DENVERPOPS Wednesday #7

The legit media isn't going to run after these theories like RWers do. ificandream Wednesday #8

Well, we've already heard from Marc Elias, the foremost authority on Republican election shenanigans tritsofme Wednesday #12

I trust Marc. BUT bluestarone Wednesday #30

I have never disagreed with him before... returnee Thursday #156

Those "experts" like Marc Elias do not understand computer voting annielion Thursday #118

Two highly respected journalist already have DENVERPOPS Wednesday #25

Yep, titled. Trump Lost. Vote Suppression Won. DiamondShark Wednesday #70

Not sure, DENVERPOPS Wednesday #78

Here try this one DENVERPOPS Wednesday #80

Joesph Stalin Botany Thursday #120

They way that Trump is already DENVERPOPS Thursday #144

What we really need is another Mark Felt. ShazzieB Wednesday #27

When this current admin falls apart (which is happening), we'll have some whistleblowers coming forward! liberalla Wednesday #74

I believe you are right! ShazzieB Thursday #127

Does Newsweek count? Chemical Bill Wednesday #77

And according to the article Leonard Leo's sale of Tripp Lite to Eaton put Theil (and Musk ?) into .. Botany Wednesday #9

He said that knowing that the theft is untraceable. live love laugh Wednesday #47

The theft would be uncovered by a hand recount of the ballots. MuirHero Wednesday #93

I figured they lost a bunch of democratic mail in votes Tribetime Wednesday #10

I haven't wanted to go here because mountain grammy Wednesday #11

VP Harris own internal polling never had her winning bottomofthehill Thursday #101

My post from last year. spike jones Wednesday #14

I've programmed ES&S machines. DiamondShark Wednesday #67

I hear that mountain grammy Wednesday #82

Also Diebold IP was sold to Dominion after ES&S was accused of being a monopoly. DiamondShark Wednesday #68

Glad to see this getting more traction. Everyone needs to read it. Karasu Wednesday #16

Why didn't they fight then? Crunchy Frog Wednesday #17

Exactly. There are really only two options here, that either Harris and her billion dollar campaign were just too stupid tritsofme Wednesday #22

Hey, the Dems literally rolled over DENVERPOPS Wednesday #26

Dems always roll over when there is suspected election fraud ERW Wednesday #55

If this is the case then we need better quality Dems. Crunchy Frog Wednesday #63

Some of us on this forum were jumping up and down after the election, yellow dahlia Wednesday #64

I always just assumed that their own internal polling Crunchy Frog Wednesday #66

I believe the Ann Selzer poll was correct. yellow dahlia Thursday #153

The hand counts occurred during the audits Abnredleg Thursday #133

they may have realized, DENVERPOPS Thursday #147

not a comment on the legitimacy of the election but Skittles Wednesday #83

I think I speak for many here. BidenRocks Wednesday #19

Watch out-----here they come! Kingofalldems Wednesday #20

Yes, and let us hope that karma is coming for them all. Joinfortmill Wednesday #24

There's your fraud Evolve Dammit Wednesday #28

Election rso Wednesday #31

The vote counting companies say the working mechanisms are proprietary questionseverything Wednesday #36

Elections rso Wednesday #69

The 3 letter agencies are disappearing people, even citizens so questionseverything Wednesday #85

Elections rso Wednesday #87

Are these agencies full of super humans that can look into a puter and read it's software? questionseverything Wednesday #89

Elections rso Thursday #115

In a democracy, the people have the right to oversee the counting of our votes questionseverything Thursday #125

Elections rso Thursday #131

Actually this sub thread started with you claiming I should trust the alphabet agencies questionseverything Thursday #145

Elections rso Thursday #160

Precinct by precinct is best questionseverything 6 hrs ago #168

The certifying agencies have access to the source code Abnredleg Thursday #128

That's not what the voting companies or any us agency says questionseverything Thursday #134

The Voting System Test Laboratory does a code review Abnredleg Thursday #138

... questionseverything Thursday #142

I did read it Abnredleg Thursday #150

Eavesdropping on comms WITHIN the US is generally illegal, without a specific warrant. eppur_se_muova Thursday #96

Democrats play checkers, Republicans play chess DSandra Wednesday #33

Republicans don't play chess. dchill Wednesday #41

Still, we have to stop just being on defense because defense alone is bound to fail DSandra Wednesday #44

Dems had the option to challenge the ballots before the election was certified. Party leaders refused DSandra Wednesday #52

Democrats play Chinese checkers. Republicans play Hungry, Hungry Hippos. meadowlander Wednesday #81

I never doubted it-- something was off-- WAY off ailsagirl Wednesday #34

And still is. dchill Wednesday #42

Does anyone know if... ailsagirl Wednesday #61

From what I've researched from the past two weeks, the numbers are way-too-strange. chouchou Wednesday #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Jacson6 Wednesday #39

I have no idea, but hamsterjill Wednesday #40

Been said before and worth EVERYONE saying again - Lokee11 Thursday #112

Sorry but Abstractartist Wednesday #43

That's the thing, most places have paper ballots but it takes a court order to hand count them questionseverything Wednesday #91

Yes Abstractartist Thursday #109

But those same states do audits Abnredleg Thursday #135

You are saying things that aren't true questionseverything Thursday #136

We're talking a handful of precincts in NY Abnredleg Thursday #139

If the machine can be wrong in on precinct it can be wrong in any precinct questionseverything Thursday #143

The audit process is public Abnredleg Thursday #152

My question is, if it's true, what can be realistically done? Buddyzbuddy Wednesday #48

That's the bottom line. Xavier Breath Wednesday #56

More to the point... regnaD kciN Wednesday #59

We're always 1 step behind. Buddyzbuddy Thursday #99

Yes. Do we understand it enough to stop it in 2026? GoodRaisin Thursday #141

IMHO, we as, Democrats need to plan for the worst case scenario. Buddyzbuddy Thursday #157

This DIGITAL AMBUSH OF ELECTIONS will continue until it's stopped by high turnout in all battlegrounds. ancianita Wednesday #50

Cheaters gonna cheat, we've got an unelected rodent for president...I've said this since the "election"... wcmagumba Wednesday #51

We wuz robbed again? czarjak Wednesday #54

I believe Greg Palast has the answer - MaineNative Wednesday #57

Time for a Rachel special on this or CNN or PBS Jit423 Wednesday #60

Let me hop in a time machine... DiamondShark Wednesday #71

So stolen! And, guess who owns Eaton- Quakerfriend Wednesday #62

We need to keep talking about all the evidence and data that have been revealed in recent months. yellow dahlia Wednesday #65

I woke up one night after the election and thought the same thing is they manipulated the tabulation kimbutgar Wednesday #72

I'm saying bluestarone Wednesday #73

Here is what I'll say to those who are saying this is just simple nuttery Picaro Wednesday #79

THIS. It's utterly ridiculous to see people here comparing this to RW conspiracy theories. The RW are people who have a Karasu Wednesday #92

Network security protocols for election equipment are pretty rigorous Abnredleg Thursday #154

So that's why he's doing such a shitty job? kentuck Wednesday #94

The 2000 election was stolen. PufPuf23 Thursday #95

There was an interesting article B.See Thursday #97

Rove openly stated that they can and would cheat IbogaProject Thursday #98

And now there's AI . that'll be manipulated in their favor somehow. IcyPeas Thursday #100

That may very well be but there isn't anything to be done about it. BlueTsunami2018 Thursday #102

At the very least we need to know if our election process is safe neohippie Thursday #110

Well, I'm glad someone is looking into it. BlueTsunami2018 Thursday #111

Maybe we can make the next election count transparent? questionseverything Thursday #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Thursday #104

What information do you lack? marble falls Thursday #124

WTF did people sat back in 2000 HarryM Thursday #105

when people say they voted for someone and the count shows 0 then somethings not right samnsara Thursday #106

Interestingly, I have seem nearly exactly the same arguments made about the 2020 election hueymahl Thursday #107

Russian tail Kali999 Thursday #108

K&R spanone Thursday #113

Part 2 ...... they had the courts too. Just as important as part 1. Please give it some love. Botany Thursday #114

The statisticians have the evidence of massive vote manipulation annielion Thursday #117

Palantir is a truly fucking evil corporation. Peter Theil needs to be hauled off to Supermax now. Initech Thursday #121

Thank you, Botany!! This is something that so many have ignored for so long. 2024 was so obviously rigged/stolen. BComplex Thursday #122

The truth matters. Six117 Thursday #126

truth always matters B.See Friday #164

The people who rail that this is just a conspiracy theory are really not looking at the obvious. hadEnuf Thursday #140

They were busted red handed in 2020. Kid Berwyn Thursday #158

Is the DTC thing real? If so wow. JanMichael Friday #165

It wasn't with the voting machine but the central tabulators which if you believe this sub stack piece had ... Botany Friday #166