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Bad Dog

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153. 5th columnists.

Thu Jan 9, 2025, 04:31 PM

Jan 2025

Now that Trump has shown a willingness to use force against NATO allies, should we (non American members of NATO) be letting potential 5th columnists in?

I live in Britain, I don't want our schools to turn into shooting galleries, our peace shattered by Bible thumping fascists and our health system plundered by oligarchs.

This isn't America, we have no desire to be the 54th or whatever state, and your oligarchs need to keep their noses out of our business.

I'm not at all happy with American military bases on our soil.

Our taxes have paid for our health service it's for us not foreigners.

Americans gave us Trump, and instead of coming over here and loudly telling us what to do, and boring us with tales of George Washington, the constitution, the Battle of New Orleans and how they saved us in WW2, they should stay in America and sort it out.

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U. S. Expats Are Revealing The "We're Being Scammed" Realizations They Had After Moving Abroad [View all] Diamond_Dog Jan 2025 OP

Americans are being scammed, enslaved, robbed by the oligarchs and corrupt politicians dalton99a Jan 2025 #1

And almost half are idiots, that want to give more of their hard earned money to billionaires. Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #3

More than half, I'm afraid (n/t) PJMcK Jan 2025 #19

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Really? PJMcK Jan 2025 #27

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Okay PJMcK Jan 2025 #32

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A factual world would have done a hand recount of huge numbers arthritisR_US Jan 2025 #51

How can one have evidence based on data defacto7 Jan 2025 #72

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The "evidence" died in a plane crash. LT Barclay Jan 2025 #140

Trump won a plurality, not a majority Beck23 Jan 2025 #125

Trump** won with a plurality, not a mojority. soldierant Jan 2025 #133

Yes, because you must include millions who in past elections "claimed" to be Democrats, elocs Jan 2025 #64

And Rome continues to burn... ECL213 Jan 2025 #102

Well, if you buy a lot of things you're "giving money to billionaires" Callie1979 Jan 2025 #111

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Soon to be... 2naSalit Jan 2025 #31

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I seriously wonder why we haven't risen up as one and fought back against the billionaire scumbags. Initech Jan 2025 #37

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Meanwhile we're governed by petulant asshole John Roberts and the Hassler Jan 2025 #2

"Citizens United" made it a democracy of corporations, not what used to be citizens. usonian Jan 2025 #4

Yep - totally agree Diamond_Dog Jan 2025 #6

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Not necessarily true. First you have to establish credit LisaM Jan 2025 #8

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Mine was called Consumer Ed.....early 1970's 56miSSie Jan 2025 #139

First, no one should be dinged for not having debt. LisaM Jan 2025 #47

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I am not sure why you are giving me this tutorial. LisaM Jan 2025 #55

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Thank you, it was helpful FullySupportDems Jan 2025 #79

Thank you LisaM. You get it. Demanding credit just to get basic services holds many people back. Diamond_Dog Jan 2025 #67

Thank you! Prairie Gates Jan 2025 #68

I agree except for #4. Unused cards shouldn't affect your rating. Callie1979 Jan 2025 #113

Mine dropped when I paid off my mortgage. They will also ding someone if their credit usage sinkingfeeling Jan 2025 #75

That Happens A Lot ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #115

So true! mainer Jan 2025 #88

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Not even close PJMcK Jan 2025 #20

And corporations can use the threat of damaging your credit score not fooled Jan 2025 #23

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Declaring bankruptcy is always coached with "it will destroy your credit" NickB79 Jan 2025 #66

And if you get into a car accident, intheflow Jan 2025 #42

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went to buy a vehicle , it had been 8 years since my last car note. that hurt my credit score KG Jan 2025 #73

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If you never buy anything on credit, you'll have a shitty credit score meadowlander Jan 2025 #91

Nope Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2025 #103

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I didnot have a passport until the late 1990s. Old Crank Jan 2025 #9

Mr. Berman is probably on the right track. mwmisses4289 Jan 2025 #13

I've had a U.S. passport since I was 14 PJMcK Jan 2025 #21

Your remark about xenophobia is exactly Berman's point. keep_left Jan 2025 #29

Why should they be? OldBaldy1701E Jan 2025 #77

I found out last year Jilly_in_VA Jan 2025 #104

I think you mean REAL ID Kali Jan 2025 #36

Yeah, I've forgotten some of the details (this was post-9/11, after all)... keep_left Jan 2025 #40

The Real ID law was passed in 2005 Old Crank Jan 2025 #61

It increases the number of drivers without licences or insurance... hunter Jan 2025 #78

You can still get a CA license Old Crank Jan 2025 #86

That's why California has not required Real ID. hunter Jan 2025 #89

I use my German DL to rent in the USA too DFW Jan 2025 #141

I'll have to look into that. Old Crank Jan 2025 #142

The contracts and vouchers are usually issued by TUI DFW Jan 2025 #143

Some of them are that size. Old Crank Jan 2025 #144

We have trouble finding where all the buttons and switches are, too. DFW Jan 2025 #145

Certain types of Americans are more traveled than others IronLionZion Jan 2025 #39

That's no doubt true. But see also posts #21 and #29... keep_left Jan 2025 #43

You didn't need one to go to Canada. Not sure about Mexico. LisaM Jan 2025 #94

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You didn't need a passport to go into Canada until a few years ago. LisaM Jan 2025 #101

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Im finishing my BA at 55 FirstLight Jan 2025 #24

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In Germany for 9 plus years now. Old Crank Jan 2025 #14

An interesting take on a German girl living in the US for 6 years. Difference between mitch96 Jan 2025 #71

My gall bladder removal in the Netherlands was free Laurelin Jan 2025 #82

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Yes, my Mexican plumber's sister in Mex was robbed while on vacation last week Callie1979 Jan 2025 #110

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There's a lesson here for the Democratic party if they would only listen. Yavin4 Jan 2025 #28

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I got a kidney transplant in Germany stollen Jan 2025 #53

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Ignorance is bliss DFW Jan 2025 #59

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my daughter and her husband live in England... mike_c Jan 2025 #100

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I think the situation, while apparently better than in Canada, thucythucy Jan 2025 #146

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I'm so sorry for your loss and that you're having such a hard time! LauraInLA Jan 2025 #152

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5th columnists. Bad Dog Jan 2025 #153

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