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In reply to the discussion: The Respect Dictators Deserve (Graphic Warning) [View all]Kid Berwyn
(19,954 posts)10. Thus Sprach Tony Scalia (and the NRA)
A man at a local event by Turning Points USA asked, just hours after the Boise Towne Square shooting, asked Charlie Kirk when he would get to start killing political opponents.
When do we get to use the guns? The police should be able to take that guys guns.
BY BRYAN CLARK
The Idaho Statesman, OCTOBER 28, 2021
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The main speaker was Charlie Kirk, the co-founder of Turning Points. Kirks hucksterism is obvious. He is a traveling salesman at heart.
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According to the nonprofit organizations tax filings, Kirk was paid about $330,000 last year. Turning Points reported earning about $10.3 million from fundraising events, more than a quarter of its total revenue for 2020.
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The man, claiming the state had fallen into tyranny, asked Kirk: When do we get to use the guns? to applause and cheers from many in the audience.
Then, to remove any doubt that this aspiring Brownshirt wasnt being metaphorical or facetious but was, in fact, asking when to start murdering political opponents, he continued: Thats not a joke. Im not saying it like that. I mean, literally, where is the line? How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people?
Kirk did not respond with a simple message like: Terrorism is wrong. You shouldnt do it. Instead, he cast political violence as a tactical blunder. It would play into the hand of the same hidden media-deepstate-Democrat forces trying to institute tyranny by installing Joe Biden as president, he claimed.
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https://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/article255354321.html
Context missing from national press coverage of the national gun disorder and Agent Donald Trump and the Russia Thing.

There's a growing body of evidence showing the Republican Party has a paramilitary wing
by María Isabel Puerta Riera
Alternet, March 16, 2021
United States Senator Ron Johnson said recently that he wasn't scared when, on January 6, armed insurgents sacked and looted the United States Capitol. They "love this country," the Wisconsin Republican said. But "had the tables been turned and President Trump won the election and tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and antifa [stormed the seat of government], I might have been a little concerned."
That statement was disturbing not only for the implicit racism it carried, but for the stunning confirmation of what's becoming clear to those of us who are paying attention. The Republican Party has a paramilitary problem, and it isn't new.
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The Republican Party seems to be very comfortable with these groups around, as we have seen in Nevada, Oregon, Michigan, and other states. However, this is not a recent venture, since the accounts of strengthening ties can be traced back even before Trump won the election in 2016. The openness about their common interests is perhaps new, but it's not surprising. Alarms were sounded when state Senate Majority Leader, Republican Mike Shirkey of Michigan, participated in a rally organized by paramilitaries that stormed the Michigan Capitol back in April 2020 alongside a member of a group involved in the planned kidnapping of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
Though Michigan has a history of paramilitaries, the state GOP had tied itself to them, especially since the election as party co-chair of Meshawn Maddock. She organized a protest to interrupt ballot counting in Detroit, where paramilitaries were present.
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https://www.alternet.org/2021/03/republican-paramilitaries/
A standing pattern of anrguments over a tree acronym in order to miss the forest fire.

Even if all the media did was to follow the money, theyd find how Agent Trump and the GOP were helped by a hostile power to win ultimate power in the USA. And now that they are out of the Oval Office, their demented spawn kill innocent people with weapons of war, wreck havoc through law and fear, and create the chaotic socio-economic conditions conducive to fascism.
NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Reveals
Tim Mak, Heard on All Things Considered
September 27, 2019
The National Rifle Association acted as a "foreign asset" for Russia in the period leading up to the 2016 election, according to a new investigation unveiled Friday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.
Drawing on contemporaneous emails and private interviews, an 18-month probe by the Senate Finance Committee's Democratic staff found that the NRA underwrote political access for Russian nationals Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin more than previously known even though the two had declared their ties to the Kremlin.
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The report indicates that top NRA officials were aware of Butina's and Torshin's links with the Kremlin even as they sought to work more closely together under the banner of gun rights.
In an email later circulated to two senior NRA staff members, Butina wrote that a purpose of the 2015 Moscow trip was that "many powerful figures in the Kremlin are counting on Torshin to prove his American connections" by showing he could bring prominent NRA officials to Russia.
At another point, Butina suggested to participants on the 2015 NRA trip to Russia that she might be able to set up a meeting between them and President Vladimir Putin, referring to him as "Russia's highest leader."
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https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals
The proven and still active connection between Americas ultra right and Russias Mafiya of oligarchics and spooks should be brought up in context of the current vast right wing gun-nut cult, officially OKd by SCOTUS and Americas plutocrats, IF we had an honest and true national news media. Who knows? It might unite the country against a common enemy: Vladimir Putin and the KGB. Certainly might keep the rabble from voting for Trump, by which I mean Putin.
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My maths teacher, Mr McRory, related to the class he witnessed this, crazy
Shellback Squid
Jan 2025
#1
Did he witness their prior killings by firing squad? That his mistress was killed too always
hlthe2b
Jan 2025
#5
no, I was about 11 and if he did witness the execution he didn't tell us, just that he saw them hanging in the market
Shellback Squid
Jan 2025
#6
I hated math and I loved hearing about the war so I would get him on that subject, so long ago
Shellback Squid
Jan 2025
#9
I hate using anyone to make a point, but when it comes to the Constitution...
Kid Berwyn
Jan 2025
#8
I thought the photos of Ceacescu would be posted. Lots of tragedy long before it gets to the point of killing dictators.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#12
You can view a video of the end of Ceaucescu at the link (graphic violence warning)
meow2u3
Jan 2025
#14
I'll never forget the young man at the Charlie Kirk event asking, "When can we use the guns?"
CrispyQ
Jan 2025
#3
I agree, but OP said they deserve it, but did not advocate it (tho perhaps should have stated it explicitly)
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#13