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The Respect Dictators Deserve (Graphic Warning) (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Saturday OP
My maths teacher, Mr McRory, related to the class he witnessed this, crazy Shellback Squid Saturday #1
Did he witness their prior killings by firing squad? That his mistress was killed too always hlthe2b Saturday #5
no, I was about 11 and if he did witness the execution he didn't tell us, just that he saw them hanging in the market Shellback Squid Saturday #6
Must have been a great class. Kid Berwyn Saturday #7
I hated math and I loved hearing about the war so I would get him on that subject, so long ago Shellback Squid Saturday #9
This is the photo I expected. GoCubsGo Saturday #2
I hate using anyone to make a point, but when it comes to the Constitution... Kid Berwyn Saturday #8
Same. I hate that we're at a point where things make me feel this way. GoCubsGo Saturday #16
I thought the photos of Ceacescu would be posted. Lots of tragedy long before it gets to the point of killing dictators. Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #12
You can view a video of the end of Ceaucescu at the link (graphic violence warning) meow2u3 Saturday #14
I'll never forget the young man at the Charlie Kirk event asking, "When can we use the guns?" CrispyQ Saturday #3
Thus Sprach Tony Scalia (and the NRA) Kid Berwyn Saturday #10
A paramilitary wing indeed. ProPublica just published soldierant Saturday #15
Thank Goodness for Pro Publica. Kid Berwyn Saturday #17
Advocating violence Unladen Swallow Saturday #4
No, it isn't. Kid Berwyn Saturday #11
I agree, but OP said they deserve it, but did not advocate it (tho perhaps should have stated it explicitly) Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #13

hlthe2b

(106,988 posts)
5. Did he witness their prior killings by firing squad? That his mistress was killed too always
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:41 PM
Saturday

added a special layer of horror in hearing/reading about this. I hope never to witness anything like it.

Shellback Squid

(9,149 posts)
6. no, I was about 11 and if he did witness the execution he didn't tell us, just that he saw them hanging in the market
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:47 PM
Saturday

Kid Berwyn

(18,456 posts)
7. Must have been a great class.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:49 PM
Saturday

Was Mr. McRory a witness?

Either way, what did he relate about the events?

Shellback Squid

(9,149 posts)
9. I hated math and I loved hearing about the war so I would get him on that subject, so long ago
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:52 PM
Saturday

that I only remember the Mussolini event, this was in the UK in the early seventies

Kid Berwyn

(18,456 posts)
8. I hate using anyone to make a point, but when it comes to the Constitution...
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:51 PM
Saturday

...To protect, defend and uphold the United States of America and government of, by and for the People -- I'd give my life, honor and fortune.

GoCubsGo

(33,216 posts)
16. Same. I hate that we're at a point where things make me feel this way.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:32 PM
Saturday

I never dreamed in my life that we'd be reaching this point. But, here we are, right on the cusp of it... A pox on the lot of them.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,471 posts)
12. I thought the photos of Ceacescu would be posted. Lots of tragedy long before it gets to the point of killing dictators.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:57 PM
Saturday

CrispyQ

(38,654 posts)
3. I'll never forget the young man at the Charlie Kirk event asking, "When can we use the guns?"
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 12:50 PM
Saturday

There will be more Rittenhouses & Pennys.

Kid Berwyn

(18,456 posts)
10. Thus Sprach Tony Scalia (and the NRA)
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 02:00 PM
Saturday

A man at a local event by Turning Points USA asked, just hours after the Boise Towne Square shooting, asked Charlie Kirk when he would get to start killing political opponents.





‘When do we get to use the guns?’ The police should be able to take that guy’s guns.

BY BRYAN CLARK
The Idaho Statesman, OCTOBER 28, 2021

Excerpt…

The main speaker was Charlie Kirk, the co-founder of Turning Points. Kirk’s hucksterism is obvious. He is a traveling salesman at heart.

Snip…

According to the nonprofit organization’s tax filings, Kirk was paid about $330,000 last year. Turning Points reported earning about $10.3 million from fundraising events, more than a quarter of its total revenue for 2020.

Snip…

The man, claiming the state had fallen into tyranny, asked Kirk: “When do we get to use the guns?” — to applause and cheers from many in the audience.

Then, to remove any doubt that this aspiring Brownshirt wasn’t being metaphorical or facetious but was, in fact, asking when to start murdering political opponents, he continued: “That’s not a joke. I’m not saying it like that. I mean, literally, where is the line? How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people?”

Kirk did not respond with a simple message like: “Terrorism is wrong. You shouldn’t do it.” Instead, he cast political violence as a tactical blunder. It would play into the hand of the same hidden media-deepstate-Democrat forces trying to institute tyranny by installing Joe Biden as president, he claimed.

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https://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/article255354321.html



Context missing from national press coverage of the national gun disorder and Agent Donald Trump and the Russia Thing.





There's a growing body of evidence showing the Republican Party has a paramilitary wing

by María Isabel Puerta Riera
Alternet, March 16, 2021

United States Senator Ron Johnson said recently that he wasn't scared when, on January 6, armed insurgents sacked and looted the United States Capitol. They "love this country," the Wisconsin Republican said. But "had the tables been turned and President Trump won the election and tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and antifa [stormed the seat of government], I might have been a little concerned."

That statement was disturbing not only for the implicit racism it carried, but for the stunning confirmation of what's becoming clear to those of us who are paying attention. The Republican Party has a paramilitary problem, and it isn't new.

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The Republican Party seems to be very comfortable with these groups around, as we have seen in Nevada, Oregon, Michigan, and other states. However, this is not a recent venture, since the accounts of strengthening ties can be traced back even before Trump won the election in 2016. The openness about their common interests is perhaps new, but it's not surprising. Alarms were sounded when state Senate Majority Leader, Republican Mike Shirkey of Michigan, participated in a rally organized by paramilitaries that stormed the Michigan Capitol back in April 2020 alongside a member of a group involved in the planned kidnapping of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

Though Michigan has a history of paramilitaries, the state GOP had tied itself to them, especially since the election as party co-chair of Meshawn Maddock. She organized a protest to interrupt ballot counting in Detroit, where paramilitaries were present.

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https://www.alternet.org/2021/03/republican-paramilitaries/



A standing pattern of anrguments over a tree acronym in order to miss the forest fire.



Even if all the media did was to follow the money, they’d find how Agent Trump and the GOP were helped by a hostile power to win ultimate power in the USA. And now that they are out of the Oval Office, their demented spawn kill innocent people with weapons of war, wreck havoc through law and fear, and create the chaotic socio-economic conditions conducive to fascism.



NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Reveals

Tim Mak, Heard on All Things Considered
September 27, 2019

The National Rifle Association acted as a "foreign asset" for Russia in the period leading up to the 2016 election, according to a new investigation unveiled Friday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.

Drawing on contemporaneous emails and private interviews, an 18-month probe by the Senate Finance Committee's Democratic staff found that the NRA underwrote political access for Russian nationals Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin more than previously known — even though the two had declared their ties to the Kremlin.

Snip…

The report indicates that top NRA officials were aware of Butina's and Torshin's links with the Kremlin even as they sought to work more closely together under the banner of gun rights.

In an email later circulated to two senior NRA staff members, Butina wrote that a purpose of the 2015 Moscow trip was that "many powerful figures in the Kremlin are counting on Torshin to prove his American connections" by showing he could bring prominent NRA officials to Russia.

At another point, Butina suggested to participants on the 2015 NRA trip to Russia that she might be able to set up a meeting between them and President Vladimir Putin, referring to him as "Russia's highest leader."

Continues…

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals



The proven and still active connection between America’s ultra right and Russia’s Mafiya of oligarchics and spooks should be brought up in context of the current vast right wing gun-nut cult, officially OK’d by SCOTUS and America’s plutocrats, IF we had an honest and true national news media. Who knows? It might unite the country against a common enemy: Vladimir Putin and the KGB. Certainly might keep the rabble from voting for Trump, by which I mean Putin.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,471 posts)
13. I agree, but OP said they deserve it, but did not advocate it (tho perhaps should have stated it explicitly)
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 03:04 PM
Saturday

The key point is extra-judicial violence. For example, arresting someone is violent (taking away liberties by force or presence of force) but authorized judicially and governmentally (almost always, there are exceptions).

Likewise, Ukraine is exerting violent force that I advocate for and feel is very appropriate because they are defending their freedom.
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