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188. Indeed, the broad brush strikes again.

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Why do men hate women so much? [View all] Brenda Dec 30 OP

Insecurity SocialDemocrat61 Dec 30 #1

Jinx! Iggo Dec 30 #3

What are they insecure about? Irish_Dem Dec 30 #4

Everything SocialDemocrat61 Dec 30 #5

Yes but he is seriously mentally ill. Irish_Dem Dec 30 #66

Healthy men are not likely insecure. JanMichael Dec 30 #72

Looks like we have a lot of unhealthy men. Irish_Dem Dec 30 #79

I know Rebl2 Dec 30 #134

But there aren't that many healthy men SocialDemocrat61 Dec 30 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 30 #82

I'm not sure I'd even go for %50. dchill Dec 30 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 30 #90

No they are not SocialDemocrat61 Dec 30 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 30 #93

As is you're right SocialDemocrat61 Dec 30 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 30 #99

Good for you SocialDemocrat61 Dec 30 #102

"What are healthy men insecure about?" Dave Bowman Dec 31 #228

Yes only psychopaths would force pregnant women to die slow tortuous deaths. Irish_Dem Dec 31 #230

+1 Dave Bowman Dec 31 #236

Jobs, just not wanting the "traditional" lifestyle JI7 Dec 30 #6

Most American men would not have a roof over their heads if their wife didn't bring in a paycheck. Ferrets are Cool Dec 31 #186

From what I see in the young manosphere on the net, musette_sf Dec 31 #261

Depends on the man. Iggo Dec 30 #7

What are some of the things they are insecure about? Irish_Dem Dec 30 #68

It's about control Docreed2003 Dec 30 #59

If women are inferior, men can feel superior? Irish_Dem Dec 30 #70

BINGO Irish Dem. Diamond_Dog Dec 30 #98

Probably a lot of that, plus all the other men who control THEM makes some mighty insecure Attilatheblond Dec 30 #152

It's about culture...it's not different from racism in that respect. Trueblue Texan Dec 31 #189

Women can create a new life, men can't. That makes them feel inferior therefore they hate us. Walleye Dec 30 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 30 #84

I have to disagree with you Walleye. Diamond_Dog Dec 30 #97

Anthropologically, slightlv Dec 30 #109

I read a book a long while back that this was the theory. Women bled every month, somehow ended up pregnant. mucholderthandirt Dec 31 #170

Boys have to go through some kind of rite of passage at adolescence. Walleye Dec 31 #207

It makes sense to me that the patriarchy was born when humans became aware of men's role in reproduction. CrispyQ Dec 31 #213

Yes, that's the way I see it, they are actually afraid of our power Walleye Dec 31 #172

That's some of it Jilly_in_VA Dec 31 #222

ayup, everything you list *IS* power! bluboid Dec 31 #232

Is this a serious question? JanMichael Dec 30 #69

Women have a right to know the answer to the question. Irish_Dem Dec 30 #75

Not a woman but I think many of the things I mentioned are reasons JanMichael Dec 30 #95

People who put down systematically other groups of people soldierant Dec 30 #104

Same reason white men put down POC? Irish_Dem Dec 31 #174

Same reason any group puts down any other group. Always. Forever. soldierant Jan 1 #286

Your thesis is proven by the current incel backlash: Women don't need men and so the less desirables are rejected. lindysalsagal Jan 3 #294

I think it's something primal. intheflow Dec 30 #113

Holy shit BlueSpot Dec 30 #160

Naw, not a scientist. intheflow Dec 31 #175

That's close to what I have heard/read Bob_in_VA Dec 31 #214

100% all of this, and intheflow Dec 31 #217

Thanks for joining in BlueSpot Dec 31 #266

A couple thousand BC was when war and territory acquisition became possible with warship technology lindysalsagal Jan 3 #293

Women's physical condition was weaker in a primitive society. Irish_Dem Dec 31 #176

Exactly! intheflow Dec 31 #177

Except the idea men were the hunters has been dismissed and been proven out women were very LizBeth Jan 1 #278

Very good. malthaussen Dec 31 #235

Because they no longer own them. It's a loss of status. Beck23 Dec 31 #201

Yes. As if they're suddenly competing with their dairy cows for jobs. Scrivener7 Dec 31 #216

Vagina envy? wnylib Dec 30 #35

I never thought I would see folks here arguing the superiority of one set of genitalia over the other. PeaceWave Dec 30 #101

You are taking my comment way too literally. wnylib Dec 30 #127

Freud/fraud.... I never could keep that straight Attilatheblond Dec 30 #156

LOL. I think that his own subjectivity crept into his conclusions. wnylib Dec 31 #168

Yep. Da man had issues Attilatheblond Dec 31 #187

I never thought I would live in a country Hope22 Dec 30 #158

And how 'bout them multiple orgasms, with no rest between needed? Attilatheblond Dec 30 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem Dec 31 #178

Done in one -misanthroptimist Dec 31 #183

Basically ThePartyThatListens Jan 1 #287

Insecurity. (n/t) Iggo Dec 30 #2

Why didn't women vote for either Hillary or Kamala? Yavin4 Dec 30 #8

Nine minutes Brenda Dec 30 #13

Then work on the indoctrinated. Yavin4 Dec 30 #17

Men voted in higher %s for Trump than did women, in every racial/ethnic category. spooky3 Dec 30 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 30 #85

So all the exit polls say. And if you don't like those, Pew will likely publish its Validated Voter study in the next spooky3 Dec 30 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 30 #107

The table here that is labeled "the gender gap..." may be of interest: spooky3 Dec 30 #111

What's up with all the conspiracies lately? Polybius Dec 30 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 1 #267

It was in reply to Chin Music's post Polybius Jan 1 #268

no, work on MEN Brenda Dec 30 #74

Work on men by leading with the statement "Why do men hate women so much?" PeaceWave Dec 30 #112

No it is not effective, nor are facts. Go figure. LizBeth Jan 1 #279

That's a rather broad brush SickOfTheOnePct Dec 30 #18

I mean when you start reducing it qazplm135 Dec 30 #64

Men are also indoctrinated by the same patriarchal society EdmondDantes_ Dec 30 #114

Ty for pointing out genuine progress. Unfortunately Drumphf inflamed a whole bunch of men who do hate women. electric_blue68 Dec 30 #142

If, when, how many and with whom Freddie Dec 31 #185

An inconvenient truth...45% of women voted for Trump over Kamala. PeaceWave Dec 30 #21

92% of Black Women JustAnotherGen Dec 30 #45

Leave black folks out of this mess. Keepthesoulalive Dec 30 #53

Amen JustAnotherGen Dec 30 #144

An important number Beringia Dec 30 #55

And a lower percent of black men voted for Harris and Clinton than Biden and Obama. LizBeth Jan 1 #282

78% voted for Harris JustAnotherGen Jan 1 #288

It's true, and it's so disappointing Alice Kramden Dec 30 #132

Thank you.n/t Yavin4 Dec 30 #154

Men hate women because they're women. Women hate other women because they're jealous. CousinIT Dec 31 #238

It's a girl. I am sorry. Maybe next time. As a society we are told from the day we are born LizBeth Jan 1 #280

Apologies Just Jerome Dec 30 #9

A few yrs ago, I wasn't sure what runs deeper in our country: racism or sexism? FlyingPiggy Dec 30 #10

That's been clear Sky Jewels Dec 30 #162

Absolutely, sexism is the much larger problem. Clouds Passing Dec 31 #239

Sexism is also not addressed, discussed or acted upon as much as racism, it seems like. CousinIT Jan 1 #285

I totally agree w that. We don't talk about it nearly as much as racism. FlyingPiggy Jan 3 #290

I don't really know. Sexism seems to be accepted - even by women - more than racism. CousinIT Jan 3 #292

Some men I suspect can't handle strong women. My uncle was like that. He treated his wife like crap, SWBTATTReg Dec 30 #11

I'm a man and I don't hate women Unladen Swallow Dec 30 #12

Likewise. anciano Dec 30 #14

Me three. But, I've noticed some folks here like to make blanket statements about men. Oh well. PeaceWave Dec 30 #16

We can homegirl Dec 30 #22

Yes. Adjectives matter. But, some people seem to hate them so much. PeaceWave Dec 30 #26

Understood.... anciano Dec 30 #48

Should have used "some men". Not all. multigraincracker Dec 30 #25

Interesting correlation Unladen Swallow Dec 30 #34

After an accident and a botched surgery mine got down to 79. multigraincracker Dec 30 #41

Critical info for a man to have Unladen Swallow Dec 31 #244

Exactly. Seems to me that B.See Dec 30 #32

Treat this as with anything else xmas74 Dec 30 #42

This. I don't take offense to the white woman things, because I am not, nor have I ever been a typical white woman. onecaliberal Dec 30 #124

And there have been occassion when I myself say I am so fucking tired of white women. LizBeth Jan 1 #281

I'm a man too, but I don't get mad about the statement. I think it's clearly speaking from statistical likelihood. Lucky Luciano Dec 30 #63

Are you able to distinguish yourself as apart intheflow Dec 31 #242

Let's see if I can get banned bucolic_frolic Dec 30 #15

Actually, no. Biophilic Dec 30 #24

It was not a qualitative post. It was about winning elections. /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 30 #43

Yes, exactly, it was and is about winning elections. Biophilic Dec 30 #61

Margaret Thatcher was born in 1925 same as my mom. sheshe2 Dec 30 #39

No I think we need to exude confidence, control, and certainty bucolic_frolic Dec 30 #46

ya know what bugs me? stilettos. mopinko Dec 31 #193

If necessary, America can just drop dead, figuratively speaking lostnfound Dec 30 #44

What's wrong with how Kamala dressed? iemanja Dec 30 #54

Jeez, I hate myself for making this statement. To my mind there was nothing wrong with either wardrobe. But..... EarnestPutz Dec 30 #83

Paid a price based on wardrobe? iemanja Dec 30 #117

Al Gore was a man and received similar treatment re how he dressed. delisen Dec 31 #180

Did Vice President Harris wear clothing that was "unfit for the boardroom" thucythucy Dec 31 #254

Seems strange, doesn't it? I can clearly remember the crusade against the ERA walkingman Dec 30 #19

Thanks for a good reply walkingman Brenda Dec 30 #28

I didn't make my thoughts clear.... walkingman Dec 30 #50

I think that's a very astute observation walkingman. Buddyzbuddy Dec 30 #110

i'm not sute that "hate" is the order of things rampartd Dec 30 #60

It should be remembered that the "Crusade against the ERA"... regnaD kciN Dec 30 #65

Thank you. Exactly - and she was successful in defeating it. walkingman Dec 30 #78

And yet she wasn't nurturing and loving her children. SharonAnn Dec 30 #91

No, she was not. North Shore Chicago Dec 31 #184

They're scared of you. paleotn Dec 30 #20

Not sure to or of whom you are speaking Unladen Swallow Dec 30 #37

Does the shoe fit? paleotn Dec 31 #226

Anger? Lol. Unladen Swallow Dec 31 #245

Modification of the old Bard... paleotn Dec 31 #260

All the wanna-be Alpha males can't compete on a level playing field. Can't cope; they've been shielded so long. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 30 #23

Their alpha male bullshit only works on other men. Iggo Dec 30 #30

The whole binary gender thing is weird. Think. Again. Dec 30 #27

Hey MAGA! Want more American engineers, fewer H-1B? Educate women, mentor them, and pay them the same. ERA. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 30 #29

When one's only sense of power or accomplishment depends on another's subjugation... Reader Rabbit Dec 30 #31

Perfectly stated. Scrivener7 Dec 30 #51

Succinct and Astute Observation! Haveadream Dec 31 #167

Technically, these aren't my own words. Reader Rabbit Dec 31 #198

Thank you for that! Haveadream Dec 31 #249

Male patriarchy PortTack Dec 30 #33

Weak men hate women. PittBlue Dec 30 #36

Lots of strong men do too. Scrivener7 Dec 30 #52

Phyllis Schlafly. The Unmitigated Gall Dec 30 #38

Because the worst man is instantly better than half the population. Intractable Dec 30 #40

Pfft. wnylib Dec 30 #49

This is a supremely bigoted statement in my view and demonstrates and defines, if anything, hatred itself. NNadir Dec 30 #47

Why are men's feelings so much more important than iemanja Dec 30 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author anciano Dec 30 #80

Lol iemanja Dec 30 #118

Yes. Let's attack each other based on gender - despite the fact that all of us here voted for Kamala. PeaceWave Dec 30 #120

Equal rights iemanja Dec 30 #122

OP specifically asked "Why did so many male Dems and Independents not vote for Harris?" PeaceWave Dec 30 #126

I since edited my post iemanja Dec 30 #131

My only priority is to see folks here argue effectively with one another. Generalities and scapegoating don't help... PeaceWave Dec 30 #135

Therefore not equal rights iemanja Dec 30 #147

"Considering your appropriate correction of my point about Republican me" Abolishinist Dec 30 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Dec 30 #161

A strange way to have fun? Abolishinist Dec 30 #163

This is not about women's rights, which all decent people - and there are lots of men who qualify - emphatically support NNadir Dec 30 #145

It is about women's rights iemanja Dec 30 #146

Less offensive if OP said some? Ilikepurple Dec 31 #164

Are you a man? róisín_dubh Dec 31 #169

Nope obamanut2012 Dec 31 #200

Except women live it from the day they are born, but not allowed a conversation? LizBeth Jan 1 #283

Men and women rso Dec 30 #58

power over a perceived "weaker" sex? I have no idea. I don't see any difference but obviously millions do. Evolve Dammit Dec 30 #62

That is beyond my understanding of the male nature. Lunabell Dec 30 #71

My theory is men hate women because they know they need us to perpetuate humanity Walleye Dec 30 #73

Hoo boy would THAT be a hoot! Diamond_Dog Dec 30 #106

I've wondered about this too 4catsmom Dec 30 #77

Study Mexico where men voted in a woman president in 2024 delisen Dec 30 #81

I think POTUS is unique. They don't think a woman can be the leader of the free world and commander-in-chief of the most Walleye Dec 30 #87

Maybe it has to do with the nature of iemanja Dec 30 #119

I don't think our military power is regarded in the way it was post WWIi delisen Dec 30 #130

I will believe it when it happens, not before Walleye Dec 31 #171

This is always brought up in these conversations. It's like saying Scrivener7 Dec 30 #125

Not sure I understand your meaning delisen Dec 30 #136

Recent events prove we can't achieve that. Scrivener7 Dec 30 #139

How do you think recent events prove that we can,t achieve that anytime soon? delisen Dec 31 #250

Seriously? I bet you can figure that out. Scrivener7 Dec 31 #257

I figure there is no proof. delisen Jan 1 #272

You do you, dear. Scrivener7 Jan 1 #275

She's also bucking a rather dismal trend TheProle Dec 31 #243

Yes it is the slowest rate of growth as the authoaritarian trend is worldwide. delisen Jan 1 #273

Mexico votes more by party than personality LeftInTX Jan 1 #270

Both major party candidates were women. delisen Jan 1 #274

Mexican American men supported Kamala more than white men did. Elessar Zappa Jan 3 #298

Yeah, but I saw it here. LeftInTX Jan 3 #299

I live in New Mexico. Elessar Zappa Jan 3 #300

I know most of the people that I've mentioned. With the exception of the 21 yo LeftInTX Jan 3 #302

That is a very interesting perspective. Thank you. nt delisen Jan 4 #304

Yes but... róisín_dubh Jan 1 #271

The question could be cate94 Dec 30 #86

??? The Third Doctor Dec 30 #89

Wonder this often cally Dec 30 #94

It's not hate, it's patriarchy. pandr32 Dec 30 #100

Same thing. You can't have the patriarchy without the hate. Scrivener7 Dec 30 #123

Mysogyny and patriarchy do seem to dovetail. pandr32 Dec 31 #221

Replicating patriarchy requires hatred. It may be unexamined but it is still hatred. Scrivener7 Dec 31 #259

And lots of women benefit from the patriarchy Freddie Dec 31 #211

To say lots of women benefit from patriarchy... SunSeeker Dec 31 #220

Agree, but they don't see beyond themselves to realize that Freddie Dec 31 #233

Because the hot ones turned them down for prom, meadowlander Dec 30 #103

Some men treat women like dirt and others don't know how to behave and don't have females in their lives. rickford66 Dec 30 #108

Oh they do.... they really do. And seeing it more now that ever before in my lifetime. LizBeth Dec 30 #115

I can only speak for myself, but I certainly don't Polybius Dec 30 #121

* some Oopsie Daisy Dec 30 #128

Thank you. Last time I checked, exit polls showed that 44% of men voted for Kamala. PeaceWave Dec 30 #129

You're all overthinking it. usonian Dec 30 #133

Yup. Religion. SheltieLover Dec 31 #256

This thread shows that MOST men just don't get it. Scrivener7 Dec 30 #137

Not playing DFW Dec 30 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Dec 30 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist Dec 30 #150

Short answer... Bread and Circuses Dec 30 #140

Sometimes, you see the thread title, the OP flvegan Dec 30 #143

Only if "epic" is defined as pitting Dems against each other in a way that Trumpers must love. PeaceWave Dec 30 #149

Loving the early 90s energy, tho Sympthsical Dec 31 #166

I wonder if the people who so object to this thread iemanja Dec 30 #148

once women demonstrate their excellence in power, the cat will be out of the bag cadoman Dec 30 #151

You say "they stopped Harris." Who is "they" when 45% of women voted for Trump? PeaceWave Dec 30 #153

For the same reason they hate other races, religions, etc. chowmama Dec 30 #157

When the worst qualified white man Blue_Tires Dec 31 #165

Gratuitous, pointless man-bashing. Paladin Dec 31 #173

You are missing the point. Consider the difference between the rights of women and the Scrivener7 Dec 31 #181

I agree with your comments. And I stand by mine. (nt) Paladin Dec 31 #196

Then you don't actually agree with my comments. Scrivener7 Dec 31 #197

Castle Rock v. Gonzales H2O Man Dec 31 #248

What is the proportion of restraining orders against husbands by wives versus against wives by husbands? Scrivener7 Dec 31 #258

It is true H2O Man Dec 31 #262

Indeed, the broad brush strikes again. Patton French Dec 31 #188

Sex and women make men incredibly vulnerable. leftyladyfrommo Dec 31 #179

because everything bad in the world is Eve's fault PedroXimenez Dec 31 #182

No ERA and widespread mainstream sexism in our faces everyday Quiet Em Dec 31 #190

Should that be "American men"? viva la Dec 31 #191

Patriarchy rules the globe. CrispyQ Dec 31 #203

Try watching this guy. Linda ladeewolf Dec 31 #192

He does a series on this topic. Linda ladeewolf Dec 31 #194

Well, I voted for Kamala Harris, and so did many of my male friends. MineralMan Dec 31 #195

I agree with Mineral Man Klondike Kat Dec 31 #199

I'm glad you posted this Dem4life1234 Dec 31 #202

Another thing Dem4life1234 Dec 31 #204

Because they are intimidated. They also are idiots. OLDMDDEM Dec 31 #205

This message was self-deleted by its author CentralMass Dec 31 #206

It's one of the reasons Dem4life1234 Dec 31 #208

It would be nice to see more of this Quiet Em Dec 31 #209

This is a rightwing propaganda framing. Voltaire2 Dec 31 #210

Another issue I see is that some women /and men WANT to be controlled... TrunKated Dec 31 #212

Perhaps it's the same reason that racists are so full of fear from the "other" -- it's because they are afraid OMGWTF Dec 31 #215

We finally achieved approval from the requisite number of states Mblaze Dec 31 #218

We live in a patriarchy, which is a hierarchy, and therefore MUST have a group of people, women, to oppress. valleyrogue Dec 31 #219

I just watched a movie called Nu-Shu, a hidden language of women in China Beringia Dec 31 #223

Mama didn't love them enough kimbutgar Dec 31 #224

Whatever the reason it's time to stop redqueen Dec 31 #225

Happy New Year, redqueen! Nice to see you. I'll check those out. Scrivener7 Jan 1 #277

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 31 #227

It's about 'being the boss'. Joinfortmill Dec 31 #229

Because there is enmity between his seed and her seed. Festivito Dec 31 #231

I think it is safe to blame the Judeo-Christian "creation" fable LeftyLucie Dec 31 #234

There was patriarchy in sub-Saharan Africa that weren't Christian, Jewish, or Muslim. Elessar Zappa Dec 31 #263

There were also many matrileneal societies in both sub-Sharan Africa and among Indigenous folks in America and elsewhere LeftyLucie Dec 31 #265

Sure, there were some matrilineal societies. Elessar Zappa Jan 3 #297

Why did so many Dems and Independents *not* vote against DJT? malthaussen Dec 31 #237

I'm proud that I'm not one of them. I voted for Harris and Clinton. What a better world it would be if they had won. OverBurn Dec 31 #240

Indoctrination of Little Boys IroningBored Dec 31 #241

In my female life I've found older men respect women more than do younger men. Younger men allegorical oracle Dec 31 #246

The possibility of the mail in ballots cast by men The Wizard Dec 31 #247

For a lot of them, these men can't bear the idea of possibly being dominated no_hypocrisy Dec 31 #251

My first thought was the Book of Genesis. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 31 #252

Overgeneralize and get 250 responses. EarnestPutz Dec 31 #253

Scared... Godot51 Dec 31 #255

Religion. alarimer Dec 31 #264

Because we as a society... Chemical Bill Jan 1 #269

I think the differences between men's and women's responses to this question give a big part of the answer. Scrivener7 Jan 1 #276

Part 2 of my rant no_hypocrisy Jan 1 #284

Men supported Hillary Clinton in 2016. C0RI0LANUS Jan 1 #289

Today I read that the Taliban have banned windows where women could be seen Babajida Jan 3 #291

i heard about this on an am radio news break yesterday when i was in the car orleans Jan 3 #295

Insecurity+Ingrained culture Elessar Zappa Jan 3 #296

Because these men are afraid women will get enough power one day to treat men like how men treat women. Oneironaut Jan 3 #301

It's about power and control GoreWon2000 Jan 3 #303