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PeaceWave

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Sat Dec 28, 2024, 07:37 PM Dec 2024

Dress Codes - An unnecessary vestige of an exclusionary and discriminatory past or something that still has a purpose... [View all]

I ask this question due to what recently happened at a prestigious New York chess tournament. I'm not sure that dress codes ever really had a legitimate place in civil society. Over the centuries, they have been used to exclude the poor and middle classes and to discriminate against racial and religious minorities. Today, a quarter of the way into the 21st century, it is apparently still okay in some circles to use dress codes to stifle competition, brilliance and joy. I find this disappointing.

Chess champion Magnus Carlsen disqualified from tournament for wearing jeans

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chess-champion-magnus-carlsen-disqualified-from-tournament-for-wearing-jeans/

I'm not sure how many of you follow chess. If you do, then you know that 34 year old Magnus Carlsen is a rock star in the world of competitive chess. This week, Carlsen was competing in New York in the World Blitz Chess Championship and the World Rapid Chess Championship. Carlsen won both tournaments in both 2022 and 2023. He has won the Blitz Chess Championship seven times and the Rapid Chess Championship five times in the past 10 years.

After playing several rounds of chess, Carlsen was confronted by tournament officials who informed him that he needed to remove his pants. Yes, you got that right. Tournament officials told Carlsen that the jeans he was wearing were "expressly prohibited" under the International Chess Federation's regulations for the event. They further informed him that he would be fined $200 and would need to change his clothes. Carlsen declined to do so on the spot but offered to change for the following day of the tournament. Tournament officials refused Carlsen's offer, at which point Carlsen said things "became a bit of a matter of principle." Carlsen was not permitted to play in the tournament's ninth round and he was disqualified from further participation. Carlsen said he would not appeal the decision.

A picture of Magnus Carlsen and his "expressly prohibited" jeans...

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Carlsen used that as an excuse. drray23 Dec 2024 #1
You have an axe to grind with the greatest chess player to ever walk the planet? PeaceWave Dec 2024 #15
Ambivalent ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #2
ludicrous dsc Dec 2024 #3
They make the rules. Doesn't matter how great they look. jimfields33 Dec 2024 #43
and it took them not one, or two, or three, but eight rounds to figure that out dsc Dec 2024 #48
I agree. They should have disqualified him upon arrival. jimfields33 Dec 2024 #49
They look horrible Mosby Jan 5 #71
There was a female chess master who refused to play in Saudi Arabia Arazi Dec 2024 #4
She did the right thing by dropping out. jimfields33 Dec 2024 #44
Or they could drop the outdated dress code Arazi Dec 2024 #52
Just follow the Golden Rule. He who has the gold, rules. Wonder Why Dec 2024 #5
They're not reasonable all across the board. But I wish more high-end restaurants Aristus Dec 2024 #6
I'm with you there . . . Journeyman Dec 2024 #7
In all of the years of my childhood, back when smoking was permitted in restaurants Aristus Dec 2024 #8
Why do you care what other people wear? wackadoo wabbit Dec 2024 #20
I'm not sure I agree 100%. Atmosphere counts for a lot on a night out. Aristus Dec 2024 #23
Making Intrusive sounds is very different than Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #46
Breasts, butt cracks, genitals, and underwear are your bridges too far. Aristus Dec 2024 #51
Backwards baseball caps Lulu KC Dec 2024 #32
I hate the fact that I'm becoming the kind of cranky old guy I never wanted to be. Aristus Dec 2024 #60
There are times & places where it's just respectful to take a bit of care with your dress & appearance CrispyQ Dec 2024 #57
going to court Skittles Jan 4 #63
We recently went to Les Grands Buffets, in Narbonne. A restaurant dedicated to Escoffier's recipes GoneOffShore Jan 5 #72
You cannot fail, tastefully, by overdressing. cachukis Dec 2024 #9
or by misspelling the word. PeaceWave Dec 2024 #10
Thanks. I stand corrected. cachukis Dec 2024 #13
"Beware of any enterprise the requires new clothes." - Henry David Thoreau N/T lapucelle Dec 2024 #11
Said the guy who demonstrated his embrace of the simple life Aristus Dec 2024 #24
Is the part about the laundry true? lapucelle Dec 2024 #25
Laundry AND brought meals! Lulu KC Dec 2024 #33
Thoreau seems to have a lot in common with modern RW keyboard warriors. lapucelle Dec 2024 #37
I had a similar conversation just yesterday. SharonClark Dec 2024 #12
Every retail worker gets a lot of leeway from me right now Arazi Dec 2024 #14
Minimum wage begets minimum effort. Mariana Dec 2024 #16
Actually, I think Target pays decently Lulu KC Dec 2024 #34
"Nickel and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich CrispyQ Dec 2024 #58
She may be one of the homeless working poor. Lars39 Dec 2024 #29
Went to visit my grandmother's family in the old villages applegrove Dec 2024 #17
... Kelen Dec 2024 #18
What I find really stupid is that Men and Women compete separately in major Chess tournaments MichMan Dec 2024 #19
It's because men's egos can't handle... WestMichRad Dec 2024 #53
Man, I remember getting whupped by a 12 year old girl (best friend's little sister) The Mouth Jan 4 #62
Opportunities Johnny2X2X Jan 5 #73
Sorry, if they aren't skilled enough to compete then they need to try harder. MichMan Jan 5 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Dec 2024 #21
That is "dressed up" for a 34 year old. yardwork Dec 2024 #22
Men in tight clothes Freddie Dec 2024 #30
Agreed! Lulu KC Dec 2024 #35
It's been like that for almost ten years. yardwork Dec 2024 #38
Yes! Lulu KC Dec 2024 #40
Kids these days! yardwork Dec 2024 #45
Our Board of Elections finally decided poll workers can wear jeans Maeve Dec 2024 #26
Accept it - MAGA has driven us back to the 1950s - it is more obvious every day. walkingman Dec 2024 #27
Gender ZDU Dec 2024 #28
Casual Friday bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #31
And piercings all over the face! IL Dem Dec 2024 #39
This does seem ridiculous BUT Lulu KC Dec 2024 #36
It's not just the jacket, Abolishinist Jan 4 #64
Yes--and while we're on it-- Lulu KC Jan 4 #67
I played a *lot* of competitive Chess as a high school kid lapfog_1 Dec 2024 #41
Dress codes are stupid Jilly_in_VA Dec 2024 #42
Color coding all the staff reminds me of Brave New World. yardwork Dec 2024 #47
"No Blue Jeans in the Rainbow Room!" - How I broke the dress code. MineralMan Dec 2024 #50
Seems counter-productive..... getagrip_already Dec 2024 #54
Someone should make dress pants with blue denim. WestMichRad Dec 2024 #55
Next year he should wear a skirt and top, pantsuit, or bridal gown. CoopersDad Dec 2024 #56
Irish fighter Conor McGregor's pinstripe suit MichMan Dec 2024 #59
Yep, same problem as mentioned earlier. It looks like it shrunk in the dryer. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2024 #61
You mean rapist and abuser obamanut2012 Jan 5 #69
I want a pair of the shoes that can be seen at :33 Abolishinist Jan 4 #65
Mostly they're snobby. alarimer Jan 4 #66
How did he not know the rules? Patton French Jan 5 #68
Americans are the most sloppily dressed people in the world. BannonsLiver Jan 5 #70
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