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jeepers

(314 posts)
39. I must be really confused
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:56 PM
Nov 2014

Let me see if I have this straight. The purpose of this new group is to wrest control of the democratic party away from the corporate financed and controlled DLC by finding a principled candidate to primary Hillary and by reminding democrats that the third way doesn't work for them. You are going to want throw around a bunch of campaign rhetoric about the old democratic party and what needs to be fixed and you are going to want to make promises about what the new democratic party will do hopefully convincing lost democrats and bringing them to the polls for the victory.
In my world we call that tripping. You'd have a better chance offering Hillary more money than the LDC to represent your cause or getting Al Franken to campaign in a psychedelic dayglo jumpsuit. The strongest part of your argument is that no matter what, most of DU will vote for the democrat and if Hillary is the nominee you will vote for her. I bet that has them scared. Their battle plan will consist of co-opting your message and ignoring you. Business as usual.

What you don't want to do is exactly what the hero of many DU ers has done. Bernie Sanders is the one who speaks the truth to the issues and the problems we face. Bernie is neither a democrat nor a republican and therefore by your call unelectable. And you wonder how people vote against their own best interests.



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I'm not sure we can wrest power away from the third Way. They are too deeply Autumn Nov 2014 #1
That may be but that's the fight as I see it. Relinquishing the Party to them rhett o rick Nov 2014 #2
No we wouldn't, but what leverage do we have now? Autumn Nov 2014 #3
We have little leverage now. But I doubt Sen Warren would jump to a Third Party. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #5
Correct, I do like the Progressive Reform Caucus name. Autumn Nov 2014 #11
Not that. Wellstone gave us the name. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #12
I am ok with that. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #20
I would be happy with a second party. That appears to be why so many people are, as we are here, sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #33
Once again, well put sabrina. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #34
Look at the right-wing Tee Party playbook Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #36
Unless we Can Build the "Infrastructure" RadicalGeek Nov 2014 #4
It would take years to build the necessary infrastructure and millions of dollars. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #8
Yes, it would take years Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #37
Since the MIC has flourished so greatly Joe Turner Nov 2014 #6
I've always liked plain ol Reform Party - just like Tea Party it puts the elite on notice that whereisjustice Nov 2014 #7
You're late. ieoeja Nov 2014 #35
Yep, forgot about that.... whereisjustice Dec 2014 #42
"Progressive Reform Caucus"... Sounds Good.... KoKo Nov 2014 #9
I second "Progressive Reform Caucus". scarletwoman Nov 2014 #10
I move to put "The Democratic Wing" on the ballot. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #13
Okay. I can't argue with that. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #14
Hi SW. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #16
No snow today. We got our big dump on Monday. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #17
One of my biggest reasons for being unwilling to break off from the Democratic Party. Half-Century Man Nov 2014 #15
Yes. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #18
If I understand, I like where you are going. But I would like some organization. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #22
As I said, it's partially baked. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #23
So we start here on this site , now at this point in time. Half-Century Man Nov 2014 #24
I sooo agree. This Party is mine and I will fight to keep it for the people. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #19
True, but third party is where we're heading. PFunk Nov 2014 #21
Not entirly accurate. Half-Century Man Nov 2014 #25
Agreed - it would be best if the Democratic Party came back to the Left. Maedhros Nov 2014 #26
or the money... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #27
Sorry, no can do. It' show time. Now or never. Either Bernie or Warren or someone like them gets silvershadow Nov 2014 #28
Problem is we need that caucus in the Senate vi5 Nov 2014 #29
A RW Clown party... CrispyQ Nov 2014 #30
Alliances with liberal third parties may be necessary for nominating progressive Democrats Zorra Nov 2014 #31
Very good points. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #32
Kicked & Rec'd /nt demwing Nov 2014 #38
I must be really confused jeepers Nov 2014 #39
If Bernie runs as a Dem, I'll support him in the primaries demwing Nov 2014 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #41
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