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Dems to Win

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43. Since 2002, no Dem who voted Yes on the Iraq War has won the presidency
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 04:45 PM
Feb 2015

Kerry couldn't spin his Yes on the Iraq War vote sufficiently to inspire the Democrats deeply angry and bitter about that war to cast ballots for him. They didn't vote for Bush, of course, but enough failed to cast a ballot for him that he lost the race.

My sis-in-law absolutely will not vote for Hillary due to her Iraq War vote, and she lives in a swing state. Anecdotes are not data, of course, but I fear if the Democrats nominate someone that my SIL, a reliable member of the Democratic base, refuses to vote for, the Dems will lose.

Hillary's Iraq War vote is a BIG part of the opposition to her candidacy. I suggest making it a prominent part of your pitch for Someone Else -- the Democrats can't win with a candidate tainted with a Yes vote on the Iraq War Resolution.

Another issue: Low turnout elections are won by the Repubs. I can't imagine a more surefire recipe for a historically low turnout election than a Clinton - Bush mashup. Disgusted anti-dynasty voters will stay home in droves. If Dems want to win, we MUST find Someone Else!

I'm Ready for Barbara Lee.

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Simple and clear, therefore hard to misrepresent. Dragonfli Feb 2015 #1
Why define yourself by nothing more than what your hate? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #2
"we must return to ideas and policies that work" MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #3
Okay.n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #6
You do lead with Hillary though, rather than with who "we" are. merrily Feb 2015 #40
Why label it as hate? We all love HRC, just think it would harm the 99% rhett o rick Feb 2015 #4
I didn't mention HRC ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #7
Well one of us thinks you are very clever. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #30
Opposition is not hate demwing Feb 2015 #8
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #11
glad you agree.../NT demwing Feb 2015 #14
Where is the hate? It isn't hate. It's wanting to win not just for the Democratic JDPriestly Feb 2015 #27
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #35
It's a decent start, but to edit is human .... Scuba Feb 2015 #5
All good points MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #9
You don't have to get bogged down on the home page. You can always link. merrily Feb 2015 #41
Time to bring back this post: "A Platform to Affirm Fundamental Human Rights" demwing Feb 2015 #10
Thank you for that. That thread should be pinned. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Cryptoad Feb 2015 #12
Can you be specific? MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #13
Common Knowledge does not have to be cited.... Cryptoad Feb 2015 #18
Sorta like why we knew when we invaded Iraq MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #20
Yes it is and I said you could simply end what is self evident Dragonfli Feb 2015 #22
No need for personal attacks, heh? Cryptoad Feb 2015 #23
No I really do find you odd my observation was not meant as an attack Dragonfli Feb 2015 #24
lol Cryptoad Feb 2015 #25
Do you have anything you would like to contribute to making this a better country? sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #33
Then stop. /nt Dragonfli Feb 2015 #21
I think you should feature.... PosterChild Feb 2015 #15
Agree, and definately should drop the FAQ, it is distracting/defensive whereisjustice Feb 2015 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2015 #16
Pin of the week demwing Feb 2015 #17
Just brainstorming here... PosterChild Feb 2015 #19
I'd put TPP as perhaps the single most important distinction between Democrats and their Party... whereisjustice Feb 2015 #26
tks. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #28
K&R. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #29
fwiw, here's my edit, flog away whereisjustice Feb 2015 #31
There's good stuff there. Thanks for taking the time and effort. Scuba Feb 2015 #34
Thanks for the post. I think we should have a pinned thread here that details the damage rhett o rick Feb 2015 #37
Excellent idea. Won't be hard to find the supporting evidence at this point. I'll try to dig up a whereisjustice Feb 2015 #39
"Hard choices have to be made to bring back opportunity for all Americans. We need somebody other whereisjustice Feb 2015 #38
Great opening salvo Manny. merrily Feb 2015 #42
Since 2002, no Dem who voted Yes on the Iraq War has won the presidency Dems to Win Feb 2015 #43
All I can say is... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #44
Nice start on the site. antiquie Mar 2015 #45
A different slant semanticwikiian Mar 2015 #46
another graphical device semanticwikiian Mar 2015 #48
i like the faq - it's a critical CONTEXT statement for the site semanticwikiian Mar 2015 #47
The only nit I would pick with this is the double mention of HRC. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #49
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