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Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
5. Public polling vs talking points?
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 11:23 AM
Jan 2015

The thrust of the thread is about "political strategists"
Not so much about polling, although polls are a tool of analysts.

Polls are fine if presented EXACTLY what results reflect.
The problem with polling is, a "percentage"
is given to "validate" a political narrative.

For example: 60% of "liberals" support TPP.
What does that mean?
60% of how many people, from what place, of what demographic?
Then there is the "weighting" of results to reflect national demographics ;~/

Now if the poll was reported as 300, middle-class, mostly white males,
with college educations, making over $50,000, living in southern states,
out of 500... support the TPP that would be honest.
Saying 60% sounds soooo much more persuasive.

Polls are essentially lies of OMISSION.

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On Fox, "Democratic Strategist" is a euphemism for "conservative shill". Scuba Jan 2015 #1
LOL, funny how that works Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #2
Everyday people aspirant Jan 2015 #3
Public polling vs talking points? Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #5
Ordinary folks aspirant Jan 2015 #9
Yes fredamae Jan 2015 #11
Most polls are designed to influence opinion, not measure it. Scuba Jan 2015 #14
+1 Scuba Jan 2015 #16
Stopping people on the street doesn't necessarily yield informed opinions. Blanks Jan 2015 #15
Who do you imaging is answering polls by phone? Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #19
THat's if they even get called at all aspirant Jan 2015 #20
Poll respondents are no doubt uninformed... Blanks Jan 2015 #22
Yep ;~) too many tout opinion polls as facts... Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #23
You got that right. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #7
I think it's karma for the 'bona fide strategists' that they should be replaced by cheap labor sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #4
LOL... replaced by cheap labor Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #6
Both MUTE and OFF Buttons fredamae Jan 2015 #8
Don't be too pessimistic Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #10
I've passed thru that Looking Glass fredamae Jan 2015 #12
Understood ;~) The game is the same Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #13
"Social media is inherently Populist." Ergo, no net neutrality for America. Scuba Jan 2015 #18
The discerning viewer can see beyhind the flags and crosses, but the masses are hoodwinked. Scuba Jan 2015 #17
There is a need to grow the numbers of "discerning viewers"... Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #21
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