Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

whereisjustice

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15. After all that has been learned about that election...

Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:17 AM

Jan 2015

- Dumping minorities from voter roles
- 300,000+ FLORIDA Democrats voting for Bush
- Gore's shitty campaign including his support of bullshit airport as a gift to political donors on edge of everglades that cost him thousands of votes
- Gore running away from Clinton
- And Clinton's own stupid, arrogant behavior
- A corrupt Florida election official
- A corrupt supreme court

You are going to blame the election on the most remotely differential statistical inference, Ralph Nader.

Until Democrats learn that ignoring your constituency and STUPID executive leadership moves have consequences, history will repeat itself.

We don't know what Gore would have done in Iraq. We don't know shit about that.

We do know, by way of clear, well documented facts, that Democratic leadership fucked up. Again. By putting corporate interests ahead of the nation's interests and by making a large plurality of STUPID, triangulating mistakes, they lost the election. And we do know if Nader hadn't run, those votes would have been split between other third parties and BUSH because many Nader supporters historically had voted REPUBLICAN!

Lazy, convenient, bullshit excuses covering up BAD leadership. Until we start holding leadership accountable for their fuck ups, nothing will change.

On edit:

Speaking of Florida fucking up, how's Debbie Wasserman Shultz doing? Going to blame that on Nader too?

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How about this populist plan [View all] aspirant Jan 2015 OP

And the Nader spoiler role got us the Iraq war, among other tragedies. rogerashton Jan 2015 #1

That's my dilemna aspirant Jan 2015 #3

The SC got us the Iraq War. Illegally, unconstitutionally and treasonously. Not to sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #11

Nader didn't do that, a corrupt and partisan Supreme Court did Warpy Jan 2015 #25

Was it Nader who fucked it up or was it Gore running a shitty campaign? Hoppy Jan 2015 #2

Or was it simply a stolen election? zeemike Jan 2015 #4

There was a fix in Florida too aspirant Jan 2015 #7

I think you hit the proverbial nail. zeemike Jan 2015 #9

It was stolen election all the way. Operatives created the Nader narrative as a smoke screen. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #22

Right on all counts. zeemike Jan 2015 #27

Yeah. The conspiracy theory. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #29

I am not shocked at all. zeemike Jan 2015 #30

For me now, this is irrevalent aspirant Jan 2015 #5

If the spoiler is a POWER tool... Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #23

Trust, ethics, a genuine populist candidate aspirant Jan 2015 #26

Both. I got he feeling Al Gore did not have any 'fire' in his belly.... marble falls Jan 2015 #6

Gore's first mistake was backing away from the Clinton presidency. Hoppy Jan 2015 #13

BINGO! A mistake repeated last November. marble falls Jan 2015 #14

It was the Supreme Court and the Bush cabal who had cheated in the election itself sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #12

And let's not forget Gore's abysmal campaign. beerandjesus Jan 2015 #31

HRC would keep promise of meeting Bernie's "demands"? RiverLover Jan 2015 #8

That's why I Think this is a win-win aspirant Jan 2015 #10

I'm not buying what they're selling either Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #24

After all that has been learned about that election... whereisjustice Jan 2015 #15

There's some confusion here aspirant Jan 2015 #17

I agree - we need politcal competition and the threat of consequences for ignoring the will whereisjustice Jan 2015 #19

In agreement aspirant Jan 2015 #20

btw - on re-reading my post, I was using 'you' in the pejorative sense, but whereisjustice Jan 2015 #21

We Can't Stay On This Path colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #16

This path leads nowhere for us. aspirant Jan 2015 #18

I agree colsohlibgal. n/t JimDandy Jan 2015 #28