Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

aspirant

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3. That's my dilemna

Sun Jan 4, 2015, 08:10 AM

Jan 2015

Working inside or outside.

"contesting primaries and local elections" Tell me how we do that without big money for a national focus or huge numbers of boots on the ground being lowly paid or sweaty volunteers?

"Nader spoiler role got us the Iraq War..." Nader was in it to the end for many reasons, my suggestion is for Bernie to use it as his bargaining chip to get Populist concessions and drop out. Concessions can't be promises, they must be actions. Maybe appointing Bernie as DNC chair or his chosen representative. Just the 2016 cycle could give an increase in Populist representation in congress. A populist 50 state strategy sure would be nice.

This is dependent of how strong the Clinton machine still is. If Bernie gets enough exposure in primary debates and a large enough following, HRC will have no choice but to cave if she wants the coveted Presidency

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How about this populist plan [View all] aspirant Jan 2015 OP

And the Nader spoiler role got us the Iraq war, among other tragedies. rogerashton Jan 2015 #1

That's my dilemna aspirant Jan 2015 #3

The SC got us the Iraq War. Illegally, unconstitutionally and treasonously. Not to sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #11

Nader didn't do that, a corrupt and partisan Supreme Court did Warpy Jan 2015 #25

Was it Nader who fucked it up or was it Gore running a shitty campaign? Hoppy Jan 2015 #2

Or was it simply a stolen election? zeemike Jan 2015 #4

There was a fix in Florida too aspirant Jan 2015 #7

I think you hit the proverbial nail. zeemike Jan 2015 #9

It was stolen election all the way. Operatives created the Nader narrative as a smoke screen. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #22

Right on all counts. zeemike Jan 2015 #27

Yeah. The conspiracy theory. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #29

I am not shocked at all. zeemike Jan 2015 #30

For me now, this is irrevalent aspirant Jan 2015 #5

If the spoiler is a POWER tool... Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #23

Trust, ethics, a genuine populist candidate aspirant Jan 2015 #26

Both. I got he feeling Al Gore did not have any 'fire' in his belly.... marble falls Jan 2015 #6

Gore's first mistake was backing away from the Clinton presidency. Hoppy Jan 2015 #13

BINGO! A mistake repeated last November. marble falls Jan 2015 #14

It was the Supreme Court and the Bush cabal who had cheated in the election itself sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #12

And let's not forget Gore's abysmal campaign. beerandjesus Jan 2015 #31

HRC would keep promise of meeting Bernie's "demands"? RiverLover Jan 2015 #8

That's why I Think this is a win-win aspirant Jan 2015 #10

I'm not buying what they're selling either Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #24

After all that has been learned about that election... whereisjustice Jan 2015 #15

There's some confusion here aspirant Jan 2015 #17

I agree - we need politcal competition and the threat of consequences for ignoring the will whereisjustice Jan 2015 #19

In agreement aspirant Jan 2015 #20

btw - on re-reading my post, I was using 'you' in the pejorative sense, but whereisjustice Jan 2015 #21

We Can't Stay On This Path colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #16

This path leads nowhere for us. aspirant Jan 2015 #18

I agree colsohlibgal. n/t JimDandy Jan 2015 #28