Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

rhett o rick

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82. Part of the "dilemma" is that some here think all DU and all Democrats are liberal/progressives.

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:57 PM

Dec 2014

But as DU is a good example, showing that we have two major factions. While both factions seem to agree pretty much on social issues they are miles apart on fracking, NSA/CIA Deep State spying, torture, the Patriot Act, the continuous middle east war, sever punishment of whistle-blowers, regulation of Wall Street, non-regulation of journalists, the Defense budget, etc.

The non-liberal/progressive among us have stands on issues, other than social issues, very close to the conservatives of the other party. Joe Lieberman, Zell Miller, and Arlen Specter were Democrats but never liberal/progressive.

I say if you support the continuous war in the middle east, the TPP, fracking, and the deregulation of Wall Street, you can't be a liberal/progressive even if you support same sex marriage.

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The New Populist Movement: Organizing to Take Back America. [View all] RiverLover Dec 2014 OP

Rank-and-file Democrats have been ready for a while, it's the Party leadership that has to be ... Scuba Dec 2014 #1

Exactly. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #2

Getting money out of elections is the only riversedge Dec 2014 #6

Absolutely right! They will just knock it down over time, the media will move on. Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #17

Isn't that the truth. nt Nay Dec 2014 #27

Rank and File!? Have been ready!? imthevicar Dec 2014 #55

Occupy definitely changed the dialogue, you are correct. They invaded the space of those who sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #76

A huge obstacle, money in politics, like control of the media. More and more are overworked, appalachiablue Dec 2014 #58

Well said. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #63

That was what Democrats ran on in the midterms, the mass media drowned it all out using media Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #3

All I saw were Democrats running as "centrists" RiverLover Dec 2014 #7

That's what I saw, with exception of two - Sanders & Warren and.. Triana Dec 2014 #14

I'm sorry, if that's all you saw. That makes you like all the citizens who chose not to vote. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #24

I voted Democrat straight ticket. I even made sure I had the right judges. RiverLover Dec 2014 #31

The problem is, I think, our message is out there but it's been trashed so mountain grammy Dec 2014 #40

All I saw from ablamj Dec 2014 #53

Do you really think she could have won if she embraced Obama mountain grammy Dec 2014 #72

I think ablamj Dec 2014 #75

"the majority of Americans are ok with the extreme policies of the previous administration" NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #67

I'm not talking about the election, it's the polls.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #71

I think the polls are bunk. It's easy to phrase poll questions to get the answers you want. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #73

WTF. Your remark is inflamatory false equivalence. Majority Democrats ran as centrists/conservatives whereisjustice Dec 2014 #66

Thank you, you are correct. I didn't hear a progressive message here in my state. Cuomo won sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #78

Mean, petty campaigns carried by mean and petty media lusting for ad cash.....we all saw that. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #70

Voting itself is not the answer. Those that vote blind and bolster the 1% are worse than rhett o rick Dec 2014 #79

I don't think there are "non progressives" among us.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #81

Part of the "dilemma" is that some here think all DU and all Democrats are liberal/progressives. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #82

I find your standards for a liberal label are pretty sane and reasonable.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #85

Yes I agree. Another thing I think is very important is that you can't give up your principles rhett o rick Dec 2014 #86

Media terrorism. That's a perfect label for the mainstream garbage. n/t mountain grammy Dec 2014 #41

"That was what Democrats ran on in the midterms," No way. They ran on, "We are not as bad as the rhett o rick Dec 2014 #64

I didn't hear that message. I heard a centrist, 'cautious' message. So did the voters so they sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #77

If you saw Democratic candidates running on progressive issues, then your definition of progressive rhett o rick Dec 2014 #80

I wish it could happen but the system is rigged. The only thing doc03 Dec 2014 #4

Sounds like you are ag the populist movement RiverLover Dec 2014 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #8

Sorry I didn't realize it was a group. I saw this on the latest threads. If we aren't supposed to doc03 Dec 2014 #12

A group is not an echo chamber. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #15

OK then. Thanks for clarifying CCD! RiverLover Dec 2014 #16

You're welcome. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #19

Depends on how they disagree and what they disagree with. merrily Jan 2015 #89

I agree. n/t ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #90

#12 Strengthen Democracy Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #9

Yes! And your sig line is my FAV ever here. thanks for both!! RiverLover Dec 2014 #10

Thank you River Lover and very Happy Holidays Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #11

I hardily agree with all of those goals. zeemike Dec 2014 #18

That's the agenda! NJCher Dec 2014 #20

Now that's a good attitude. RiverLover Dec 2014 #57

Agree Jake2413 Dec 2014 #30

Yes and Alec could almost be an acronym for all lobbyists Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #68

Embrace a populist agenda or die. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #13

Balls to this bullshit. We all gotta support Hillary! Hoppy Dec 2014 #21

Why not let the trusted media and Wall Street choose our candidate? raindaddy Dec 2014 #23

I agree. someone auta report this thread as trolling. Hoppy Dec 2014 #33

Jury Results Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #38

Oh dear. Someone actually did jury this? Hoppy Dec 2014 #42

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The thingy is fine but the fun is if you read a post without it and get that it is humor or whatever Hoppy Dec 2014 #45

I totally agree! Its a bummer that is needed for some people. RiverLover Dec 2014 #48

I rarely if ever use the thingy, but probably 1/2+ of my posts are things.... delrem Dec 2014 #61

The Masses Are NOT Ready for This Demeter Dec 2014 #22

I Fear the Core of America is Rotten mckara Dec 2014 #25

As do I. I have relatives that have turned into hard-core "I got mine, f*** you" Nay Dec 2014 #29

I fear you are right I wrote this a couple weeks back Kalidurga Dec 2014 #35

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As much as I hate to say it, I think you're right.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #26

The Age of Acquiescence antigop Dec 2014 #28

"...the insanity of Rugged Individualism...the total lack of community and compassion..." CrispyQ Dec 2014 #46

First thing to do Andy823 Dec 2014 #32

Great post. This is key. RiverLover Dec 2014 #34

You are describing one particular faction to a "Tea" Demeter Dec 2014 #37

This: CrispyQ Dec 2014 #49

It is too bad the democratic party didn't continue the 50 state strategy. --nt CrispyQ Dec 2014 #47

That should be the Democratic Party Platform Kalidurga Dec 2014 #36

Right? I thought it was, until I started paying attention around the time of Clinton. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #39

"Democrats see rising populist sentiment" - Washington Post / Dec 24 RiverLover Dec 2014 #50

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Thank you. AWESOME post!! RiverLover Dec 2014 #60

Probably luckier to have had Mrs. Roosevelt, since much of what worked was at her insistence. jtuck004 Dec 2014 #74

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Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #52

Good Democratic policy, but it won't ever fly in our current, Corporate, rightwing Democratic Party. blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #54

I'm in. joanbarnes Dec 2014 #56

Cool! RiverLover Dec 2014 #59

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K&R. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #69

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