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mother earth

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20. This is the first time I find this group, and I totally agree with what you just said. I think you
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 05:52 PM
Dec 2014

have nailed it. I feel that in the midterms there were two clear messages. One & the biggest: voting safeguards involving audits & certifying the machines has been ridiculously ignored, to our folly, OR to the benefit of the both party/corporatists, pretty much making null & void anything that doesn't mean a centrist candidate win. Why are we ignoring exit polls?

Two: ALL the progressive issues & candidates won. There really was no discussion of issues, the GOP really stole/or "won" on we are not Obama, there is a lot of racism/hate, no doubt about it.

We really do need to win back our young voters and everyone who feels it doesn't really matter because the candidates are the same, because they are right. We've learned the hard way this is true. I get it now, don't we all?

We know the lone voices that are about real issues and not just catering to the 1% big donors.

I think finding common ground on progressive issues with independents who really are about the issues & can be won over in this way, like you say, Bernie fills that void. I think we need to risk a party split, because we may gain more than we lose, or we may be surprised completely and gain overwhelming support.

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The tactic to prevent a rift in the Party is to tell Progressives and Liberals Maedhros Dec 2014 #1
Bring it on. Wellstone ruled Dec 2014 #2
Republicans should return to their own party. nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #3
^^^this^^^ dflprincess Dec 2014 #13
Split the Dems = Unending GOP governments Bragi Dec 2014 #4
And the alternative -- the ONLY alternative -- is to let the GOP get everything they want FiveGoodMen Dec 2014 #8
Which only demonstrates the fact..... DeSwiss Dec 2014 #11
But, but, but if our party is divided we'll also split our votes. That would mean ... Scuba Dec 2014 #5
No thelordofhell Dec 2014 #6
I suspect if Democrats are able to nominate AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #7
Nothing will focus the Democratic Party and its base customerserviceguy Dec 2014 #9
Thanks for pulling that post together... KoKo Dec 2014 #10
If we put out "The Clintons", then we will lose. HRC has all the right wing war mongering/corporate peacebird Dec 2014 #18
I'd say there's a gaping chasm already showing. DeSwiss Dec 2014 #12
Seems their campaigns have merged by the looks of things... Segami Dec 2014 #14
Great quote. It's the same coin though. DeSwiss Dec 2014 #16
Sounds like you're ready for the streets. Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #23
And what of a 3-party system, which in fact we have, but the third party is always minimized. mother earth Dec 2014 #21
Yes, I want a say in the collapse. Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #24
There IS a HUGE split in the base of the Democratic Party. As for elected officials, not so much sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #15
But Independents swilton Dec 2014 #17
Well, that is true, Independents do have to vote for one or the other. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #19
This is the first time I find this group, and I totally agree with what you just said. I think you mother earth Dec 2014 #20
I am not sure what it is coming. merrily Dec 2014 #22
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