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Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:18 AM Dec 2014

Lack of Voter Turnout Isn’t the Problem [View all]

Lack of votes in and of itself is not our problem.

In 2000 when the Republicans and SCOTUS stole the election, lack of votes wasn’t the problem.
In gerrymandered districts, more votes won’t change the outcomes. For example, if a district is 90% Democrats and the Democrats always win; more votes won’t change a thing. In a district that is split 60% Republican and 40% Democrats, and the Republicans win 60 – 40, more votes would not change the results.

The problem is the lack of Progressive Votes.

Our voting system is set up to disenfranchise and discourage Progressive Democrats from voting and/or render Democratic votes meaningless.

A bad analogy would be to assume our voting system is one big giant DieBold voting machine. No matter who you want to win, the results are what the Oligarchs want. Shoving more votes into the machine won’t change what comes out the other side.

So what are the real problems?

The basic problem is that we get too few Progressive votes.

And one big reason is that our voting system is corrupted. Until that’s fixed, getting more people to vote won’t solve our problem.

Also, the voters are mislead by the Corp-Media. We must figure out how to counter that. If we don’t fix this, the “more votes” we get may be for Conservatives.

Another reason we don’t get more Progressive votes is that we have too few Progressive candidates at the national level and the candidates we have won’t speak out against Conservatism loud enough to convince the public that there is a different between the parties.

If you want to get more Progressive Democrats to vote, work on solving the above problems. Simply complaining about lack of turnout is counter productive.

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If the country needs Florida, then turnout matters. TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #1
Of course we want 100% Progressive turnout. Wishing for it rhett o rick Dec 2014 #3
We need to counter the conservative/Oligarchy propaganda. Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #4
So where were people when Rush Holt or Donald Berwick were running? Most didn't bother showing up at Chathamization Dec 2014 #9
Great question. We need to find out the why people don't turn out and fix it. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #10
Why are Progressives NOT voting? We know voting is necessary, we also know that there are not sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #8
Why are Democrats not turning out? They turned out in 2008. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #21
Yes, The deeper problem is Elected Dems enabling the problems Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #2
To play devil's advocate swilton Dec 2014 #5
Exactly. There are a number of things we need to correct to get the election rhett o rick Dec 2014 #6
Where is the "vision" of what will replace what is broken? Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #7
This sounds a great deal like Paul Weyrich and the goo goo syndrome. salib Dec 2014 #11
We do want everyone to vote....so let us tackle WHY people don't vote.... KoKo Dec 2014 #12
Where is the INSPIRATIONAL... go vote, damn it! Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #13
Simple as that? jeepers Dec 2014 #14
No, not as simple as that. Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #15
In your experience is any of that true or are you wishing it were true jeepers Dec 2014 #16
Don't be so optimistic ;~/ Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #17
I suspect you are speakng sarcasm jeepers Dec 2014 #18
We attack our analyses because we don't act. Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #19
I concur. nm Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #20
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