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AtheistCrusader

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13. We need to stay out too.

Reply to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:46 PM

Oct 2014

We made Libya worse. Every time we dink around over Iran, we bolster the hard-line extremists in Iran. They're all 'SEE SEE, AMERICA IS COMING TO BOTHER US AGAIN', and frankly, there is truth to the claim.

I honestly believe our meddling, and the blowback from it, is a major contributor to the durability of some of the more regressive political regimes in the area.

Attempting to control or influence their political destiny is fraught with peril. We have to wean ourselves off believing we can control it, or even believing we SHOULD control it.

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ISIS does not represent Islam no matter what anyone thinks. [View all] hrmjustin Oct 2014 OP

I saw this interesting Venn Diagram in GD. cbayer Oct 2014 #1

Great diagram. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #2

I have a Kurdish acquaintance CJCRANE Oct 2014 #3

Yes. i think many of the people who attached themselves to ISIS did it for political reasons. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #4

Well, that would be true in any case. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #6

Paris 1919 the time was right the ideas were right but the world did nothing. Leontius Oct 2014 #11

I think after the recent Iraq war was another opportunity, to address this. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #12

The simple fact is many parts of the globe where Muslims are in the majority GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #5

However I get the feeling CJCRANE Oct 2014 #7

You might consider rethinking some of that. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #8

I think with liberal democracy, civil right protections, and a stronger rule of law hrmjustin Oct 2014 #9

It would be too little, too late. The damage is done. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #10

We need to stay out too. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #13

Absolutely Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #14

Helping kick over the Iranian Government in 1952 didn't help matters either. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #15

I don't think Shia Islamism can be lumped together with Sunni Islamism Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #16

Fair enough, but. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #17

How do you disabuse uberpatriots of their jingoism? rug Oct 2014 #18

*There* have had a great deal more success, with Americans. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #19