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Meshuga

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25. I disagree with your claim
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:27 AM
Mar 2013
Gay + Male = Dead isn't "the only allowable view." It's the only possible interpretation of Leviticus. Yes, you can place it in a broader context, but the message remains the same.


Not true. First, the text does not say "gay+male=dead" because this biblical prohibition addresses an act and not the nature or sexual desire/preference of a person. Second, given the scholarship and the broader context one can come to the conclusion that the text addresses a pagan religious practice that was rejected and seen as abhorrent by the ancient Hebrew priests and people.

Again, that is not denying the fact that people use (have been using and will keep on using) these passages for ugly interpretation to attack and discriminate against the gay community in the context of today's world. But I prefer to counter their argument with scholarship than to enable their hateful world view by erroneously persisting that their interpretation is the only valid interpretation.

I don't think anybody here is disagreeing with you that viewing the text "as is" taking it in as the inerrant word of god is ugly and cannot have another way of interpreting it.

However, if you take that mindset from the equation, the conclusions taken from the text are not as simple as you suggest.

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Don't Blame It on the Bible [View all] cbayer Mar 2013 OP
Whitewashing. n/t Plantaganet Mar 2013 #1
Not sure what you are saying. cbayer Mar 2013 #2
I'm saying that the Bible unequivocally condemns homosexuality. Plantaganet Mar 2013 #3
Seems like you are dismissing some pretty hefty arguments too easily. cbayer Mar 2013 #4
Plagiarism is regrettable - Plantaganet Mar 2013 #7
The only ptoblem with this quote okasha Mar 2013 #8
Using the word "twaddle" twice definitely solidifies your argument. Well done. Plantaganet Mar 2013 #9
Admittedly, it's concise, okasha Mar 2013 #13
Like Shakespeare? Plantaganet Mar 2013 #14
Either interpretation can be supported okasha Mar 2013 #16
You misunderstand. Plantaganet Mar 2013 #20
Allow me to clarify. okasha Mar 2013 #21
I can. Plantaganet Mar 2013 #22
Your original text also states, verbatim, okasha Mar 2013 #23
Try reading the entire post again. A few times. n/t Plantaganet Mar 2013 #24
Already done. okasha Mar 2013 #26
I disagree with your claim Meshuga Mar 2013 #25
That argument only holds skepticscott Mar 2013 #15
Actually, your point is irrelevant okasha Mar 2013 #17
Are you saying that the interpretation of the Bible skepticscott Mar 2013 #18
The article posted in the OP okasha Mar 2013 #19
You didn't really answer the question skepticscott Mar 2013 #27
In textual criticism, okasha Mar 2013 #28
The argument from the article is not to say the bible is a good book Meshuga Mar 2013 #10
Excellent post. You said it so much better than I could. cbayer Mar 2013 #12
I don't see that the argument is being made that the bible is necessarily a good book. cbayer Mar 2013 #11
Pretty interesting. PETRUS Mar 2013 #5
I thought it was interesting as well. cbayer Mar 2013 #6
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