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MADem

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45. And the details are where it gets challenging...

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:23 AM

Mar 2013

It's one thing for a kid to do his paper on Saint Francis, or Buddha, or Darth Vader, for that matter, it's another thing for the teacher to assign the topic if the subject is a religious leader or icon who doesn't or did not have a role in political life (e.g. MLK, yes, Muhamad PBUH maybe not)--I think that's where it will get iffy.

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Mississippi governor signs bill giving religion "limited public forum" in public schools [View all] cbayer Mar 2013 OP

The devil is in the details, which I think is what the ACLU is saying... goldent Mar 2013 #1

Exactly skepticscott Mar 2013 #3

I think they may becoming more popular goldent Mar 2013 #5

It's certainly true that skepticscott Mar 2013 #7

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Someone isn't dealing with reality... cyberswede Mar 2013 #36

Wow...didn't even get to see that one skepticscott Mar 2013 #40

Your key words are... cyberswede Mar 2013 #41

Yeah, kinda figured that out skepticscott Mar 2013 #42

I'm not sure how this law changes anything, but others seem to think it does. cbayer Mar 2013 #6

I think that makes sense too. They should keep an eye on the situation. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #48

Agree. I'm going to defer to the ACLU on this at this point. cbayer Mar 2013 #49

My take. The two keystones of the 1st amendment in this situation are these - pinto Mar 2013 #11

The prevailing law skepticscott Mar 2013 #15

Yeah, I think we agree here. pinto Mar 2013 #23

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Good grief! hootinholler Mar 2013 #32

FYI: AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service aikoaiko Mar 2013 #34

"freedom of the Christian Religion" hrmjustin Mar 2013 #35

I am just responding to check if my postings are coming up. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #39

Art etc is OK, but no religious clubs on school time nt Thats my opinion Mar 2013 #43

And the details are where it gets challenging... MADem Mar 2013 #45

I read the full text of the bill and it seems to apply totally to student's expression goldent Mar 2013 #46

Oh sure....the "mission creep," as it were, usually comes from the odd activist, looking to push the MADem Mar 2013 #47

I think the problem will come down to the level of academic vigor in science. freshwest Mar 2013 #2

Good points. While this is worded to sound like it might be an anti-discrimination cbayer Mar 2013 #8

Your question defines the problem - youth are more conformists - it's a survival skill. freshwest Mar 2013 #16

"students may also organize religious groups and activities before, during and after school" pinto Mar 2013 #4

Good pick up on the "during" part. cbayer Mar 2013 #9

I'd support a constitutional stance on all public funding of religious orgs in public schools. pinto Mar 2013 #13

Sounds like an entre porte arrière for church trolling in science class. nt rrneck Mar 2013 #10

That is how freshwest read it as well and you are most likely correct. cbayer Mar 2013 #12

I don't see it applying much to science goldent Mar 2013 #19

Some states are actually using textbooks that teach creationism and cbayer Mar 2013 #25

I didn't see this bill having affect on curriculum - although I didn't see the actual wording goldent Mar 2013 #27

Hopefully it is that benign and the ACLU is taking a wait and see attitude. cbayer Mar 2013 #28

If the box in exspanded to include a six day a creation, what then? nt Thats my opinion Mar 2013 #44

does "discrimination" include, e.g. a failing grade in biology? Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #14

That's a good question and may be the crux of this issue. cbayer Mar 2013 #17

No, and this is not a new problem goldent Mar 2013 #21

I had to look up the Cliff Clavin reference. cbayer Mar 2013 #22

Well, there's one of the issues skepticscott Mar 2013 #24

"... and those barriers, I believe, is a facade ...." Jim__ Mar 2013 #18

Lol. Mississippi schools already have serious problems, as you probably already know. cbayer Mar 2013 #20

Well, but who's "they"? skepticscott Mar 2013 #26

We don't know the background... TreasonousBastard Mar 2013 #29

Looking at who is backing it, I don't think they ever considered the Sikh, Jews or Muslims. cbayer Mar 2013 #30

I took a "Bible as Literature" class in college that a few Fundamentalist students made intolerable. hunter Mar 2013 #37

I guess a more experienced professor could have turned this into a lively debate... cbayer Mar 2013 #38

That's something which marymccord Jul 2013 #50

what does your link have to do with the topic of the OP? NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #51