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jimmy the one

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39. I like your haircut
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:24 AM
Feb 2015

leontius: But you tell me how do we prevent those people from obtaining guns? I've heard the estimate of 300+ million guns in the US do you believe that a ban and confiscation of all those are feasible, can you put the genie back in the bottle

No, of course the genie can't be put back; gun control efforts as they exist were only ever reasonably intended to marginally reduce the occurrence & rate of gun related violent crime.
It's about the best we could hope for.
I also think revealing gun lobby propaganda & exposing pro gun hypocrites in the congress & legislatures, is something important to be done. What's his name, Harvey Weinstein last year said he was making a movie with meryl streep exposing the nra, a great idea. 'The senators wife' it is called.
How can 45 republican senators vote down a gun control bill for background checks, & get away with it, when it had 90% public support? They ought to've been fired yet they still prance around capitol hill invoking 'the American people want us republicans a mandate' willy nilly. No penalty whatsoever to them for opposing gun control.
What we need is a recurring tv series which, different themes weekly, would educate americans on the true meaning & history of the 2nd amendment, & why it doesn't pertain to the modern day ability to own guns. How 2ndA is obsolete. How it encourages gun misuse by criminals in the manner the gun lobby propagandizes it. Expose the frauds in gunworld, like john lott, ted nugent, wayne lapierre-head. How many current americans know that president HW Bush resigned his lifetime membership in nra? as did general norman Schwarzkopf? hah, maybe 20% imo.
Expose the successes gun control has had in the cities & states & overseas, & eliminate the boogeyman which the nra paints us.

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As a liberal. I do not identify with gun ownership Trajan Feb 2015 #1
there are people who are otherwise liberal barbtries Feb 2015 #3
I, and the vast majority of billh58 Feb 2015 #4
I agree. And now it seems to be if they were killed because of a dispute over a parking space, enough Feb 2015 #2
thank you enough barbtries Feb 2015 #6
Do you want a discussion about the culture or about guns? Leontius Feb 2015 #8
the gun culture barbtries Feb 2015 #9
So the violence doesn't bother you as much as guns do. Leontius Feb 2015 #10
what a ridiculous statement barbtries Feb 2015 #12
So then the guns are the cause of the violence? Leontius Feb 2015 #14
if you have a point make it. barbtries Feb 2015 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #16
No I checked and I'm not violating the groups SOP. Leontius Feb 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #18
When I use NRA "talking points" be sure to alert until then ..... Leontius Feb 2015 #19
So, you've mentioned you have some thoughts about solutions to the problem of gun violence... Electric Monk Feb 2015 #20
It's not just gun violence it's the general level of acceptance that our society has for violent Leontius Feb 2015 #23
That's a good example. That's the sort of law I think most of our GCRA Group members here would back Electric Monk Feb 2015 #24
Did you not notice that you said that guns are not the problem but then cite flamin lib Feb 2015 #40
No that's not what I said but it is what you want to hear. Leontius Feb 2015 #42
I only read what you write and so far you seem to be too confused to be flamin lib Feb 2015 #43
I am quite clear in what I'm saying the cause of your confusion seems to be Leontius Feb 2015 #44
No, you are intentionally obtuse and bent on flamin lib Feb 2015 #45
Don't make false statements about what I posted. Leontius Feb 2015 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #21
Then alert away little bill. Leontius Feb 2015 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #25
Gunz darn sure embolden some people. Zimmerman and Dunn would have sat in their cars without a gun. Hoyt Feb 2015 #26
Absolutely they can and do embolden people to act in a more agressive manner. Leontius Feb 2015 #35
You gotta start somewhere. Every decade we delay, another 100 million are bought by yahoos. Hoyt Feb 2015 #36
I like your haircut jimmy the one Feb 2015 #39
You have some way to separate "the culture" of our current society from guns? (nt) enough Feb 2015 #37
You don't? Leontius Feb 2015 #38
It's your contention that it's culture, not guns. flamin lib Feb 2015 #41
Mainstream and Fundie media are inciting the attacks and murders on Muslims Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #5
yes, and there seems to be an endless supply of barbtries Feb 2015 #7
K&R Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #11
36% of households have guns. flamin lib Feb 2015 #13
Right-wing NRA/ALEC apologists billh58 Feb 2015 #27
right on the mark with your post guillaumeb Feb 2015 #28
This is the billh58 Feb 2015 #29
agreed guillaumeb Feb 2015 #33
i don't know. barbtries Feb 2015 #30
Excellent post locks Feb 2015 #31
thank you locks. barbtries Feb 2015 #32
gun owners are a small minority guillaumeb Feb 2015 #34
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