Gun Control Reform Activism

billh58

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27. Right-wing NRA/ALEC apologists

Sun Feb 15, 2015, 02:15 PM

Feb 2015

would argue that since we live in a violent society, gun violence is merely a symptom that is unique to the USA. According to the gun apologists, we should first treat all of the ills of our nation, and leave the issue of hundreds of millions of lethal weapons on our streets to sort itself out -- because Second Amendment, Liberty, Freedom, tradition, self-defense, yakity, yakity, yak.

The fact of the matter is that yes we are a violent society, and we enable that violence by making it easy and even noble to possess the means of quickly killing each other. Guns, and the laws that govern their use (SYG, concealed carry, etc.) have made it commonplace for a deranged individual to become judge, jury, and executioner in this country.

From an article written shortly after Congresswoman Gabby Giffords was shot:

"Americans are an emotional people who wear their hearts openly. Politicians stir up these emotions by the use of terms such as “second amendment remedies” (by which Sharron Angle meant the use of firearms). The rants of right wing shock jocks, Fox news and the likes of Glenn Beck only inflame an already febrile state. And overarching all else, easy gun law means that where, in other countries, an egg or a punch is thrown, in America people are killed."

https://theoligarchkings.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/america-is-a-violent-society/

The proliferation of guns in our society, and the lies of the right-wing gun lobby (Democrats are going to take your guns away) are a major public health issue that will not be solved by using the lame argument that gun control and legislation is not the way to "get to the root of the problem." Bullshit! Easy access to guns is one of the top problems in our society, and we need to address it head on.

Support a gun control organization, and those Democratic politicians who are brave enough to stand up to the powerful right-wing gun lobby in any way that you can. But most of all, don't let NRA/ALEC apologists (operatives?) pretending to be "Liberals" lie to you.

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with regard to the murders in Chapel Hill [View all] barbtries Feb 2015 OP

As a liberal. I do not identify with gun ownership Trajan Feb 2015 #1

there are people who are otherwise liberal barbtries Feb 2015 #3

I, and the vast majority of billh58 Feb 2015 #4

I agree. And now it seems to be if they were killed because of a dispute over a parking space, enough Feb 2015 #2

thank you enough barbtries Feb 2015 #6

Do you want a discussion about the culture or about guns? Leontius Feb 2015 #8

the gun culture barbtries Feb 2015 #9

So the violence doesn't bother you as much as guns do. Leontius Feb 2015 #10

what a ridiculous statement barbtries Feb 2015 #12

So then the guns are the cause of the violence? Leontius Feb 2015 #14

if you have a point make it. barbtries Feb 2015 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #16

No I checked and I'm not violating the groups SOP. Leontius Feb 2015 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #18

When I use NRA "talking points" be sure to alert until then ..... Leontius Feb 2015 #19

So, you've mentioned you have some thoughts about solutions to the problem of gun violence... Electric Monk Feb 2015 #20

It's not just gun violence it's the general level of acceptance that our society has for violent Leontius Feb 2015 #23

That's a good example. That's the sort of law I think most of our GCRA Group members here would back Electric Monk Feb 2015 #24

Did you not notice that you said that guns are not the problem but then cite flamin lib Feb 2015 #40

No that's not what I said but it is what you want to hear. Leontius Feb 2015 #42

I only read what you write and so far you seem to be too confused to be flamin lib Feb 2015 #43

I am quite clear in what I'm saying the cause of your confusion seems to be Leontius Feb 2015 #44

No, you are intentionally obtuse and bent on flamin lib Feb 2015 #45

Don't make false statements about what I posted. Leontius Feb 2015 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #21

Then alert away little bill. Leontius Feb 2015 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Feb 2015 #25

Gunz darn sure embolden some people. Zimmerman and Dunn would have sat in their cars without a gun. Hoyt Feb 2015 #26

Absolutely they can and do embolden people to act in a more agressive manner. Leontius Feb 2015 #35

You gotta start somewhere. Every decade we delay, another 100 million are bought by yahoos. Hoyt Feb 2015 #36

I like your haircut jimmy the one Feb 2015 #39

You have some way to separate "the culture" of our current society from guns? (nt) enough Feb 2015 #37

You don't? Leontius Feb 2015 #38

It's your contention that it's culture, not guns. flamin lib Feb 2015 #41

Mainstream and Fundie media are inciting the attacks and murders on Muslims Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #5

yes, and there seems to be an endless supply of barbtries Feb 2015 #7

K&R Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #11

36% of households have guns. flamin lib Feb 2015 #13

Right-wing NRA/ALEC apologists billh58 Feb 2015 #27

right on the mark with your post guillaumeb Feb 2015 #28

This is the billh58 Feb 2015 #29

agreed guillaumeb Feb 2015 #33

i don't know. barbtries Feb 2015 #30

Excellent post locks Feb 2015 #31

thank you locks. barbtries Feb 2015 #32

gun owners are a small minority guillaumeb Feb 2015 #34