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hunter

(39,236 posts)
8. Guns are among my least favorite tools.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jan 2015

That doesn't mean I'm unfamiliar with them.

If it's true the muscle memory never goes away, well, I haven't tested that for a long time and I'd rather not.

I know, and I'm related to, a few wartime snipers. I know, and I'm related to, a few military medics, both older than me and younger than me. I reached 18 years in a sweet time, no draft, and no war. One of my grandfathers was an Army Air Force Officer during World War II, my other grandfather was a pacifist who chose to build Liberty and Victory ships over prison. My dad and my father in-law just missed hot war in Korea.

My dad never had to declare his disdain for shooting people, but my father-in-law, a few years older, did. So they made him a medic. They also made him a guinea pig in nuclear weapons testing. He witnessed an atomic bomb blast up close from a trench, experiencing the initial flash as it passed through the back of his head and eyes tightly closed, and then he marched across ground zero shortly after. Later they discarded their radioactive boots and clothing and scrubbed themselves free of radioactive fallout in field showers.

No problem.

I've been in quite a few rough and life threatening situations that wouldn't have been improved if I'd pulled out a gun. Once the guns are out everything is FUBAR. More guns, even in "responsible" hands, will not improve the situation. What we want to do as a society, and as civilized individuals, is to deescalate these rough situations long before the guns come out.

I'll eat game hunters serve me, but I'm not inclined to hunt myself. If my family was hungry, then yes, I would. I occasionally eat domestic meat, so I'd be a hypocrite to oppose sustainable hunting. Historically my family were cattle ranchers and dairy farmers. I've got a niece who raises goats for dairy products and meat, and other relatives who bring beef to your table. Even more relatives who keep chickens for eggs and chicken soup. Every one of my great grandmas did that. I used to watch in awe as they turned birds, small mammals, or fish into dinner faster than I could comprehend the movements of the knives they held. I'd manage to skin and gut one fish, and they'd already be frying the rest of the fish for everyone else.

I'm not inclined to collect old firearms, but the things I do collect seem odd to most people, including my wife. Among my favorites are old cameras and old random photographs and postcards I find in thrift stores.

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I voted just another hobbyist. GGJohn Jan 2015 #1
Why do you need semi-autos? randys1 Jan 2015 #26
Why do I have to have a need? GGJohn Jan 2015 #28
GIven their existence leads to so much death and destruction, are you saying you can have it randys1 Jan 2015 #29
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, GGJohn Jan 2015 #30
BAzooka? randys1 Jan 2015 #31
Why the hell would I want a bazooka? GGJohn Jan 2015 #32
Why do you NEED a right to religion? kioa Jan 2015 #34
It makes you supremely qualified to host this group. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #2
My thoughts also. nt dumbcat Jan 2015 #4
You sound like a true responsible gun owner, unlike those in the NRA and our very own gungeon Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #3
Do you support taking away his current right of owning other kinds of rifles? kioa Jan 2015 #12
First of all I never said anything about taking away his rights, second you are in the wrong group Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #15
Do you support the AWB? kioa Jan 2015 #17
This thread is not about the Assault Weapons Ban, and no I am not open to making you a host Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #18
I had to delete the GD thread because it raised the ire of Gungeoneers and I couldn't see any of the flamin lib Jan 2015 #5
sarisataka has continued it in the RKBA group Electric Monk Jan 2015 #6
Well, it can just stay there. flamin lib Jan 2015 #7
Seeing the response to your posts in that thread....you are welcome to host...my sympathies. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #9
Guns are among my least favorite tools. hunter Jan 2015 #8
Was a "sniper" when the Army didn't have a sniper program flamin lib Jan 2015 #11
Would like to see you as host. I agree completely with your position on semi-auto guns. Hoyt Jan 2015 #10
How so? Rifles are one of the least used murder weapons. kioa Jan 2015 #13
Heard it all before.. And it is no reason to allow proliferation of gunz. Hoyt Jan 2015 #14
You don't "allow" any right. kioa Jan 2015 #16
So now we are going from, guns are fine because people get killed by knives, to Hoyt Jan 2015 #19
I don't think you have any cause in insisting that any innocent American should give up ANY right to kioa Jan 2015 #33
Clearly, gunz are important to you. Hoyt Jan 2015 #35
Predictable Hoytism. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #37
GCRA Statement of Purpose: billh58 Jan 2015 #20
The first thing I'm going to do is add some names to the blocked list. At least three, so far. nt Electric Monk Jan 2015 #21
I'm with you there. nt flamin lib Jan 2015 #22
Thanks n/t billh58 Jan 2015 #24
I'm willing to bet billh58 Jan 2015 #23
Ironically I can't see any of the responses to the GD crosspost and only one flamin lib Jan 2015 #25
makes you a smart person and a responsible gun owner. leftofcool Jan 2015 #27
As someone on the other side of the fence on this issue... kioa Jan 2015 #36
Owning a gun may be a right, flamin lib Jan 2015 #38
Being able to own guns you want to ban IS a current right. kioa Jan 2015 #40
It is NOT a right. It's a current privilege that can and has been prohibited. flamin lib Jan 2015 #43
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #44
I repeat, to own some particular type of gun IS NOT A RIGHT. flamin lib Jan 2015 #45
1) Dictionary definitions aren't falsehoods. kioa Jan 2015 #46
Yeah, there's that "true liberals" label---as usual, an indicator of conservative inclinations.(nt) Paladin Jan 2015 #39
Oh sure. kioa Jan 2015 #41
Then refer to yourself as a liberal, rather than a "true liberal." Problem solved. (nt) Paladin Jan 2015 #42
He really, really tried to pull off billh58 Jan 2015 #47
dissection jimmy the one Jan 2015 #48
Thanks for the props. flamin lib Jan 2015 #49
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