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Starboard Tack

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31. Let me clarify my position, then you can decide whether to ban me from this group.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jan 2014

I support all regulations that make guns and gun use safer than it is at present. I support legislation preventing the carrying of guns in public, except in the most extreme of circumstances. I support the banning of certain weapons for civilian use. I oppose SYG laws, especially outside the home.
I think the US should move toward a UK approach to firearms.
The Second Amendment needs to be shredded and rewritten with today's realities in mind.
My issue with background checks is that they don't work and they are highly discriminatory.

That said, the reality is that you live in a very divided nation on this issue and there are no simple fixes. Registration and responsibility are ways to reduce gun theft, but without enforcement and real penalties, they are ineffective. Local laws, which I support, must be enforced. Every community should have the right to ban guns inside their jurisdiction, as should any business establishment.

The key to combatting the madness is to identify the battles that can be won.

Now, feel free to toss me out. I'm used to it. I got kicked out of Sunday school when I was 6 for asking too many questions and I got kicked out of Atheists and Agnostics for expressing tolerance. I don't do too well in narrow minded environments. The Gungeoneers would have tossed me out years ago, but they don't have "Safe Haven" status, thankfully.
Alternatively, you can listen to a slightly different POV from time to time. That way, we may be able to engage in constructive debate, rather than preaching to the choir in an echo chamber.

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The "well-being of our greater society" matters squat to those in love with their gunz. Hoyt Jan 2014 #1
Too true, billh58 Jan 2014 #8
Wishful thinking. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #2
I understand what you are saying but I for one would have no idea where to buy pot Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #3
The Heller decision billh58 Jan 2014 #7
I subscribe to their emails so I know about wanting gun owners to be more responsible but Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #13
If the guns are billh58 Jan 2014 #18
If one is motivated enough, one will find either. That is my point. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #9
Please read the SOP SecularMotion Jan 2014 #14
Let me clarify my position, then you can decide whether to ban me from this group. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #31
" I don't do too well in narrow minded environments." SecularMotion Jan 2014 #32
I'm interested in intelligent discussion Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #33
So basically you billh58 Jan 2014 #34
No, I don't want to debate gun control here Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #35
As I am not a Host billh58 Jan 2014 #41
Oops! Sorry, I thought I was responding to SecularMotion Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #42
There are ways to defeat computer systems, car security systems etc Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #15
You are parroting the billh58 Jan 2014 #20
I'm not parroting anything. Have you read any of my other posts? Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #21
The poster that billh58 Jan 2014 #23
As I've said before, I've posted more here than the RKBA group Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #27
I completely agree. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #30
What do you think of mandatory safe storage laws? Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #36
Good question. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #39
Thank you, I like your answer. Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #40
You mean if gunz are banned or restricted, those supposed "law-abiding" gun owners will become Hoyt Jan 2014 #10
Well I don't think we can legislate someone into becoming a criminal. Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #16
Didn't you tell me once that you were against legislation banning ccw? Bazinga Jan 2014 #4
I do not advocate banning guns from the street. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 Jan 2014 #6
While NRA apologists billh58 Jan 2014 #5
I think we need to stop the proliferation of more gunz. For every decade we do nothing, Hoyt Jan 2014 #11
You've got some good ideas Hoyt but when you talk about Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #17
If you do not understand billh58 Jan 2014 #19
Oh I understand them. I also understand that people often make fun of and call Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #22
Second Amendment absolutists billh58 Jan 2014 #24
What's wrong, does it hurt your wittle feelings? If I remember, you got a few gunz. Hoyt Jan 2014 #25
This one keeps billh58 Jan 2014 #26
Despite what you think, "this one" doesn't think there needs to be gun shows Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #38
Again with the juvenile act Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #28
Still waiting for you to post where I said I "got a few gunz" Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #37
Thanks for posting this, billh58 Jan 2014 #29
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