ceounpe: because the May issue states don't want to test the issue .. In this case I believe that NY and CA and other big May issue states don't want it being challenged. This was the safest way for IL to comply and not risk getting the other states May issue laws in trouble in a possible SC showdown.
That's it? so simple; Thanks, clears it up in a very short paragraph too.
I agree in hindsight, current supreme court would likely contend 'may issue' unconstitutional by some rightwing hocus pocus, even though in the past, states have put prohibitions to concealed carry in their constitutions, dating from 1800's.
.. even so I bet it's on the nra's 'future agenda' list to label may issue as such the horrible infringement of people's right to carry loaded pistols all over the place.
The maryland case went pretty far and i don't think the pro gun control advocates want to possibly have May issue laws tossed as arbitrary.
Arg, you've got me on this one too, what you refer to, a maryland ccw case where shall issue was ruled upon? dunno how these two got past me.
As far as why a dem state and senate did this the answer is the courts forced them to.
Of course (I see now), as some guncontrol efforts just prior to heller 2008 wanted the DC mayor to drop his appeal to supreme court about deciding whether their handgun ban was constitutional, for fear of exactly what happened.
Brady iirc, wanted DC mayor to lift it's ban & accept handguns in DC, for fear of scotus ruling for 'individual rkba'. Strange bedfellows politics makes.
.. so it seems my first thought was correct, doomed to be a pyrrhic victory.
But looking at the votes it seams outside of major urban centers the rest of the state has wanted concealed carry for a long time.
Sounds about right for rurals, but, no state in the past, prior to actually getting shall issue, has 'wanted' it, according to every reputable poll I've ever seen.
Shall issue implementation has only gotten support from about 30 - 45% of a state's residents, the larger majority not wanting it. Republican legislatures have generally been responsible for passage of shall issue ccw laws, against the majority desires of their constituents. I haven't seen any recent illinois polls about what illinoisans want, not that it really matters anymore.
Texas didn't even want it in 90's, & it was why gov anne richards claimed something like texas doesn't need a referendum on whether they want shall issue ccw, since she knew what texas polls told her - ~60-40 against. Her words then got distorted by the gun lobby as suppressing texas 'rkba', and this, accd'g to nra, helped get gwbush elected next gov of tex.
.. You've only 2 posts I notice, ceonupe, & so haven't been vetted; a lot of infiltrators appear out of thin air, but you get the initial benny of the doubt, so welcome & thanks.
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