Not for Nothing ... but, Am I the Only One to think that it is a travesty that of ALL the times

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101. I don't often disagree with you, Sir, but I do in this case. This isn't DU2..

There are no moderators, there's no longer the rules that moderators used back there, and when there were moderators, there was a general perception amongst DUers, sometimes deservedly, that there was a lack of consistency in enforcing the rules. There was a complete lack of transparency at DU2, and after initial reservations about DU3 with its hosts and juries, despite the inbuilt and sometimes annoying lack of consistency with the jury system, it's a vast improvement on DU2. So, those hidden posts shouldn't be judged by DU2 standards, but by the community standards of DU3, and to be able to judge in an informed way, people need to be able to see the wording of an alert, and how the jury voted, and what if anything they said in their comments.

In this case I've only seen the jury results for the most recent hide. There was no animosity in the comments that voted to hide, and no assumption can be logically made that those who voted to hide without comment held any animosity. I agree with the most recent and oldest hides (i'm aware that even though I'm a member, participant, a woman, a feminist, and a co-founder of this group that in saying that I agree with those two hides, there may be calls for me to be voted off the island), but posted in GD when people were talking about one of the other hides that I didn't think it was hideworthy and would have voted to leave it. As yr aware from our association in the I/P group at DU, I have a few friends who cross the line when it comes to civility. I've been on juries where posts from people I really like have been alerted and if I feel violate the community standards (mine are if a post is a personal attack, bigoted, RW, or creepy) I'll vote to hide regardless of my like or dislike of the person who posted it. I've also voted to leave posts from DUers I don't think highly of if I don't think their post crosses the line that I've set for posts I think are worthy of hiding.

When it comes to DUers who get to take a ride on the Time Out Train, there's a few common themes. Of the ones I'm aware of, there's not a single one whose absence makes DU a lesser place to hang out at. Sure, there's one in particular I miss as we have a similar sense of humour, but even in his case DU hasn't been deprived of wisdom or energy during his time-out. All of them, with no exceptions, should be holding themselves responsible for their time-outs, not blaming everyone else for it. If people don't hold themselves responsible in any way for their hidden posts and don't even consider examining how they post, the likelihood is that they'll become a frequent flier with time-outs and history will keep on repeating itself. If I were ever in the position where I had four hidden posts, I'd be making my posts so damn vanilla that there's no way any jury could vote to hide them...