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ismnotwasm

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14. I think, in a certain sense the idea of pornography evolved from Christians
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 06:44 PM
Jun 2014

In the sense that as the the church was growing, there were many "cults" Like Athenian worshipers--that used sex in their rituals. There is some evidence that Paul's sexual moralizing angst was directed toward these cults, which were ultimately wiped out, rather than 'rules' of behavior.

There is also some evidence that the prohibitions against homosexuals as far back as Leviticus came from the same type of competition. Much later, Once the council of Nicea 'codified' the structure of the church the political considerations of what went in the bible went on for centuries.
So it was never questioned since it was Abrahamic, patriartical religion, like Islam and Judaism. So much information was lost, it's hard to say if the prohibition was a mistranslation or an pushback against another religion, or an actual belief--which I highly doubt.

Look at the story of David and Jonathan in the OT--

16:21 And David came to Saul, and stood before him: and he loved him greatly; and he became his armourbearer.

16:22 And Saul sent to Jesse, saying, Let David, I pray thee, stand before me; for he hath found favour in my sight.
16:23 And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him. (16:23)
Much Later:

18:1 And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.
18:2 And Saul took him that day, and would let him go no more home to his father's house. (18:
And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments ... and his girdle."
18:3 Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul.
18:4 And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle.

It's a huge complicated war story, but I've always thought of it as a love story as well.

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Maybe that's where the term "chick" came from corkhead Jun 2014 #1
... it does, doesn't it? Squinch Jun 2014 #8
What the fuck. ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #2
Great site! Thanks. Squinch Jun 2014 #7
I had an anthropology prof in college geardaddy Jun 2014 #3
Anthropology was a male dominated field ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #4
That's why I liked her classes the best geardaddy Jun 2014 #5
... ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #6
There is a great documentary that is available on youtube robbob Jun 2014 #9
It would seem that any modern interpretation will invariably carry a modern bias Orrex Jun 2014 #10
Depends on how you view the past ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #12
"...seeing sex as pornography seems to me a way to control and commodify human sexual behavior." nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #13
I think, in a certain sense the idea of pornography evolved from Christians ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #14
Hard to see the David/Jonathan story as anything but a romance. Also the story of Jesus healing nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #15
Exactly ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #17
I was a lit major in college - had to write analytical essays on all sorts of texts - nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #18
Now this is interesting. redqueen Jun 2014 #20
Aw shoot! I thought Violet may have returned... boston bean Jun 2014 #11
Probably a little Goddess figure libodem Jun 2014 #16
That's also interesting. redqueen Jun 2014 #21
Where's the baby bump? IronLionZion Jun 2014 #19
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