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davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
6. It's rare, but not THAT rare.
Sat May 31, 2014, 10:53 AM
May 2014

A whole lot of people just lie about it. Especially men. You can hear all about it in locker rooms, in random conversations between guys when they meet up. They lie about girls almost as much as they lie about the size of their twinkies.

There is a societal expectation that we have either had sex by the time we're 18 or so, or that we at least lie about it. I mean, who wants to star in their own forty year old virgin movie?

That said - I don't think anyone owes it to anyone, but I do think it's a shame that we live in a society where sex is such a taboo subject, even when it's all around us in movies, video games, media, music... our culture is obsessed with it, but there's a dark under-current that somehow suggests that it's sinful, something we should feel guilty about. I don't think that our physical bodies and their natural desires should be a subject for shame and ridicule.

I was raised Catholic - people told me when I was a boy that pre-marital sex was wrong (it makes baby Jesus cry, or something) and that I should get married before I did it. As a boy, I nodded my head, because I didn't understand it, I didn't know what puberty was yet. As I get older, the notion is absolutely bizarre to me. Why on earth would anyone get married with someone they might have absolutely no sexual compatibility with? Love, I guess. Maybe intellectual or emotional connection. But most modern relationships require that kind of compatibility for success.

Getting back to the original point though - I expect that it wasn't just the sex issue for Rodgers. He was a confused young man who seemed incapable of understanding the notion of responsibility. If women didn't want him, he should have cleaned himself up, been less of a jerk, moved to another place, hired an escort. Hell, there are any number of things he could have done. His decision to commit murder, based on hatred and the notion that he somehow deserved sex, costs him any respect, sympathy, or understanding I might have had for him.

How was this guy educated? Did he have sisters (which might have increased his understanding, somewhat, of the female gender?) Was his upbringing a religious one? Often, the confused notions of sex common in religion frustrate the hell out of young men. Having been a young man - having had my own difficulties with the opposite sex, I understand loneliness, I understand desire and frustration. I don't understand the hate, the violence, or the narcissism though, that leads one person to think that they deserve sex, that it's all everybody else's fault if they can't find a girlfriend.

I think our society encourages loneliness, narcissism, sex obsession - and overall nervous breakdown. I feel that we really need an educational system which focuses, not just on academics, but also on sociological and psychological issues. There's a reason there's so much violence in this Country - and a lot of it comes from a lack of education and understanding.

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Thank you for posting shenmue May 2014 #1
Excellent piece. theHandpuppet May 2014 #2
Just like you. sulphurdunn May 2014 #3
my son that will be back soon likes to discuss this subject.... and everything else seabeyond May 2014 #7
Youths confidence. sulphurdunn May 2014 #10
This is excellent! Personally, I am so tired of men who demand that I give them an excuse if I don't DesertDiamond May 2014 #4
virgin/lesbian/slut. seabeyond May 2014 #8
You forgot "bitch" Sweet Freedom May 2014 #15
i kinda see it the seabeyond May 2014 #16
Ewww Sweet Freedom May 2014 #22
omg... two different worlds. lol. and both... men dictating our sexuality. interesting. seabeyond May 2014 #23
I just wonder... theHandpuppet May 2014 #24
i am so glad this woman spoke out. i make this point. every single person ignores it. women? sex? seabeyond May 2014 #5
It's rare, but not THAT rare. davidthegnome May 2014 #6
i dont know if i will read rest. society sex is a taboo subject??? fuggin' for real? we obsessively seabeyond May 2014 #9
Well, if you had read the rest... davidthegnome May 2014 #11
excellent. then david. i will continue on reading. thank you for letting me know. seabeyond May 2014 #12
so why did you say it? your very next sentence proved otherwise. seabeyond May 2014 #13
Maybe I could have used clearer language. davidthegnome May 2014 #14
yes. i get all that. i really do. i have been talking about it for a while now. seabeyond May 2014 #18
For further clarification of my point: davidthegnome May 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2014 #21
I think it goes beyond religion ismnotwasm May 2014 #25
That entitlement is rooted in patriarchal religions theHandpuppet May 2014 #34
Yeah ismnotwasm May 2014 #35
It's like a rolodex of boys clubs. theHandpuppet May 2014 #36
You're right. davidthegnome May 2014 #37
Thank you for this post theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #38
This in the first real paragraph ismnotwasm May 2014 #17
because all men are animals and will fuck anything they can. seabeyond May 2014 #19
I am schooling my twenty something sons about this randys1 May 2014 #26
K&R. Not that all men are planning retaliation for not getting the sex they want, but Dark n Stormy Knight May 2014 #27
Now this, this is fantastic. redqueen May 2014 #28
"I cannot and will not feel sorry for them. " ha ha. i thought the same when i read it. i like your seabeyond May 2014 #29
Yeah, I'm so done being nice about this shit. redqueen May 2014 #30
Andrea Dworkin again ismnotwasm May 2014 #31
Thank you. She put it perfectly. nt redqueen May 2014 #32
dworkin... and again. agree with you both. nt seabeyond May 2014 #33
That speech is one of the most powerful things I have ever read. MadrasT Jun 2014 #39
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