Victim advocates applaud Craigslist rape verdict

[mercuryblues]

70. so what

you are saying is that unless a women, oops person, types in "and women" each and every time their point can not be taken seriously? for real? Perhaps someone is just trying to discuss the male aspect of it. How many times in this thread alone has it been stated that certainly, women have bought into the rape culture, that point has not been denied. Even the definition I supplied included women in the definition. So why focus on the "but, but women do it too"?

As for supplying the definition, you previously stated that you were not sure of what rape culture meant. You corroborated your ambiguity about the subject when you put quotes around rape culture. Sometimes I find it helpful if everyone starts on the same page.

Growing up under a patriarchal system does not excuse anyone for being oppressive. This is where the nuanced part of thinking comes in. Some women are not aware Of the oppression. Take Lily Ledbetter for instance. She assumed that she was earning the same as the men in the same position. It was not until she was ready to retire that, she found out differently. As a result it affected her pension and social security payments. Some women just don't care for various reasons. some women use it as an excuse to not take responsibility. Some women believe the Bible tells them so.

Some women use it as an excuse to bully other women as a way to be accepted into the men's club. Which is why some women discuss the male aspect - to break the cycle. The best part is when people, men and women grow up and realize that their actions [oppression or willingly oppressed] has a domino effect and strive to do better, not only for themselves but also for those around them.

What I observe is fewer and fewer women, and men buying into patriarchy. Which is a reason for those that actively do are becoming more vocal and doubling down on the hate. I liken it to the republican party/teabaggers phenomenon. The more the republicans become obsolete; the more their ideas are rejected and proven failures, they are left with only their base to speak for them. Moderates need not apply. The result is a smaller but more rabid voice.