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BainsBane

(55,018 posts)
6. I might add
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:34 PM
Dec 2013

It is worse to talk about rape apology than to be raped or to argue an accused rapist shouldn't have to face charges.
It is worse to talk about misogyny than engage in misogyny.

Why? People feel they should be able to express any view that denies the human rights of others without being called on it. They insist their views not be challenged. They insist that you ignore any argument they don't explicitly make. So if they argue some guy was "set up" by "b...s," that's okay. What's not okay is to say that treats women as inferior, indeed, less than human. If someone doesn't explicitly say "I don't care about women," it's not okay to point out that their entire analysis excludes women, rape victims, etc. . from consideration as equal human beings worthy of respect.

It's okay to argue rape really isn't much of a problem, that women lie, and that rape prevention PSA's "harangue" and "punish men," but it's not okay to point out that fits a textbook definition of rape apology. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rape_apology http://everydayvictimblaming.com/news/debunking-some-of-the-myths-around-rape/
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/18/five_easy_steps_for_becoming_a_rape_apologist/

Also, if you mention the existence of rape apology, that means you have called indviduals rape apologists, even if you were not addressing them and didn't even know of their existence when you discussed a problem. Talking about the existence of rape apology is of course far more serious than directly calling someone an "authoritarian stooge" for the MIC, a fascist, crazy, a feminazi, a nazi, a "Maoist," "right-wing", or a "misandrist troll with a dark agenda."

It's okay to call someone crazy, a b...h, a w...e, a s....t, a c....t, but it's not okay to call that sexist. Sexist is a woman calling another woman "dear" rather than a "crazy . . . liar." Misogyny is talking about how misogyny is manifested, not its actual practice. Bigotry is the responsibility of organizations like the NAACP and sexism the fault of NOW and feminists like moi, not by men who insist EEOC laws are invalid, equal pay for equal work is a non-issue, or that the truly oppressed in life are men, especially upper-middle class white men. You know, if only Mitt had been born in Mexico, he'd be president now. It's the exact same attitude.

This is of course an observation of the intertubes generally and not anyone on this site.

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Funny ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #1
Only because they are not xulamaude Dec 2013 #2
+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2013 #28
Please step forward ... You have won the internet for the day. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #3
i think so too strong. yes indeed. seabeyond Dec 2013 #5
+1 redqueen Dec 2013 #14
that is very very good. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #4
I might add BainsBane Dec 2013 #6
Oh ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #8
i got number two. a prostitute. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #10
oh... three is the guys go to. slut. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #11
Doh ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #12
lol. it is kinda fun trying to figure it out. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #13
Yeah, I wasn't careful about the spaces I used. BainsBane Dec 2013 #16
Well added. And too true. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #15
That's excellent assessment nt MrScorpio Dec 2013 #7
After reading another thread where someone is gleeful passiveporcupine Dec 2013 #9
+100 Duppers Dec 2013 #17
Case in point BainsBane Dec 2013 #18
Lord lord ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #19
the only thing would be throwing the porn in there, and that referenced another thread or two. but, seabeyond Dec 2013 #20
He talked about porn. That's what I was responding to. BainsBane Dec 2013 #21
i htought he had. but re reading i didnt see it. will look again. but, when i first saw the hide seabeyond Dec 2013 #22
gotcha. porn argument was not in Op. was in the post you actually addressed. i knew i had read it seabeyond Dec 2013 #23
Weakness. Cowardliness. They can't take scrutiny of what they say. redqueen Dec 2013 #24
that is it. we are told that is what we are suppose to do. but when we do, we are punished and seabeyond Dec 2013 #25
+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2013 #27
Kicked and Recommended for the fucking truth...................nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #26
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