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Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
8. Du has changed a lot over the years.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 03:54 PM
Jul 2014

For the longest time there was a sense of unity; Anti-Bush, anti-war. Then a great deal of unity around the notion of hope and change after the economy tanked, slightly later the Occupy group was formed. However some of the more radical and vocal elements of the Occupy group were purged, and some only briefly drifted over from DU2 and then felt unwelcome.

I don't think many people go much further than general discussion, or the greatest page nowadays. One look at the most discussed threads, or the multiple (usually similar) threads about the 'outrage du jour' in GD suggest that in a vacuum, purged of radicals and dreamers, and starved of hope, that many of the participants are there to engage in bloodsport and bickering.

Chomsky's remark that “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum....” strikes me as fairly apt.

I also hope that some of the more non-mainstream groups pick up, and one lesson of history teaches that no-one has the foresight to accurately predict the event that ends up sparking a sea-change. However, the Labor group is kept pretty well stocked with news and info daily, and the socialist progressives group produces some great discussions, and has picked up some momentum lately. The Occupy group is one of the most unique groups on DU, since it is leaderless, and open to interpretation and reinvention as the Occupy movement diversifies, and similar movements rise and fall globally.

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Don't know about all, but "safe havens" have no controversy pipoman Jul 2014 #1
in my experience there is a lot to talk about - minus controversy for the sake of controversy ellenrr Jul 2014 #4
My experience is that none of those disagreements are allowed pipoman Jul 2014 #5
I don't have any news sources for these topics specifically Demeter Jul 2014 #2
well I have not experienced 'dive-bombing' on the forums I mentioned. ellenrr Jul 2014 #3
maybe their local occupy groups are flagging, too. mopinko Jul 2014 #6
I think the loners forum is the least active of all. CrispyQ Jul 2014 #7
Du has changed a lot over the years. Joe Shlabotnik Jul 2014 #8
thanks. thoughtful analysis. ellenrr Jul 2014 #9
Joe, if you can answer this w/o getting yourself in trouble with the Powers: ellenrr Jul 2014 #12
Very much resonate with your words. truedelphi Jan 2015 #23
I agree with your concerns, and with much others have said above. snot Jul 2014 #10
I agree. It's one of the reasons I am an infrequent visitor here.. ellenrr Jul 2014 #11
Not a lot of people on DU seem to care about activism. Chathamization Sep 2014 #13
I agree! there is this facebook group about getting single-payer- ellenrr Sep 2014 #14
Probably not as active ... captfoster5 Sep 2014 #15
Yes, the internet could be a huge boon for activism. From my experience, some ways it could help Chathamization Sep 2014 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #17
Re: lenrely Dec 2014 #18
I have an idea that if all the thinking people on du were to stop reacting to trolls, ellenrr Dec 2014 #19
95% of the posts also seem to come from about 5% of the users. Post limits would be nice. Some Chathamization Jan 2015 #25
I really like the idea of posting a link that is clickable into the header. truedelphi Jan 2015 #22
well, I don't know if this will make you feel any better but I'd like to see more criticism of media Bill USA Dec 2014 #20
thanks bill, I didn't even know there WAS a media forum... ellenrr Dec 2014 #21
Anthropology? ... I didn't uncover that one (ha-ha). I agree, it sounds interesting! You might Bill USA Jan 2015 #24
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