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sabrina 1

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11. DU is mainly representative right now, which is a shame and I wish it were different, of fairly, by
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 01:30 AM
Oct 2012

by comparison I mean, privileged, middle-class White people. That is why you see so little discussion of what you just stated, about Camden eg, or organizing against Police killings of civilians.

And why you see so little resistance to the Status Quo, and even hatred for movements like OWS and for News Orgs like Wikileaks. The 'left' in the US is not so 'left' and in fact the US Left is as antogonist to the real left, as any right wing organizaion. This was not so obvious during the Bush years, they needed the 'left' then. The American ruling class is very Right Leaning and are actually fearful of the working class, both Left and Right.

Many people on DU are afraid of those movements and of a truly free press, which is the basis of what Wikileaks was founded on. You see the opposition here to Julian Assange. True it is a minority here, but if the Left was really what they claim to be, they would be fully supportive of OWS and Wikileaks. They cannot understand someone like him, so they react as 'elite' populations always have to true rebels, they try to undermine them.

But if you spent time on the Minority blogs, and the Minority Blogosphere is huge, you would see much more in depth discussion about situations like Camden eg, because it relates to the lives of people who frequent minority blogs. And you would see much more recognition of Police Brutality and very little defense of it, as you see here.

You will see far less outrage over trivia, as you see here, such as the use of words, or criticism of Obama eg even if they generally support him. I have found those blogs to much more honest and not nearly as fearful, as the partisan blogs.

DU and Daily Kos are a fairly narrow segment of society, a segment that is fortunate enough to be able to 'worry' about trivia, although as you can see, they have no idea that it is trivia. It's very important to them, eg, working hard to keep the 'wrong kind off people' off DU.

I wish more minorities and more of the real working poor would join DU and DK. But when I asked people why they do not frequent these partisan forums, they told me that they do not feel comfortable there, that they are not represented on such forums. Their concerns are not addressed much of the time and when they are it is only for political purposes, they believe. That it is not generally sincere.

The Minority Blogosphere is far more diverse and active, and far less 'politically correct'. Also they have when necessary been able to use their forums to organize mass demonstrations, such as the Immigrant marches and the strikes a few years ago.


DU and mass media don't much tell about the daily struggle of people at the bottom and what is going on there,


I think DU used to be better at doing this but a lot of the early members moved on as the board become more of an election headquarters than what we thought it was originally, a real rallying place for people who were genuinely concerned about the direction this country is going in. It became too focused on elections, and did the worst possible thing in terms of using elections for good, basically forbade any criticism of politicians, or focus on actual issues at the most important time for doing so.

OWS came about because there was a vacuum. People were disillusioned by the political system and by Political Forums which in the end failed to be what originally we hoped they would be, a force for the people, a place where politicians would learn just how angry the people are and hopefully get back in touch with the people.

But instead, they filled up with political operatives, and that truly ruined the initial potential we had to make a difference. So OWS is the next best way to do what political forums have failed to and to utilize the new media for the benefit of the people, which it does very effectively.

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