2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Those who say "Americans will never vote for a Socialist Jew" are revealing their own prejudice [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"Liberal" and "revolution" being two of them, in your post. I think a lot of voters in this country felt they had two crappy choices facing them in the general election, and worked from there. I don't think they necessarily wanted what Trump was selling, either, whatever label that would fall under.
My saying that doesn't mean I claim to "know exactly how every voter in the country was feeling". One thing I can safely say is that in terms of objective data, as I said in my previous post, we have some specific data points on, for instance, the rust belt. See, in that sentence above, I said "I think"- which means I am expressing a subjective opinion. However, we know that Hillary clinton lost PA, MI and WI. We know that she dropped a shit-ton of counties in the midwest that Obama carried (the polling in Iowa should have been a red flag, to all of us, in retrospect) we also KNOW that Sanders outperformed her in several of those key areas during the primaries. See, there's speculation, but some of my speculations here are based on objective data. Doesn't mean it's right, but it has a basis in reality.
I don't even understand why you'd say that- believe me, if I wanted to make jokes they'd be funnier- unless I said something that confused you, upset you or left you unable to formulate a more relevant response. I'm not deflecting anything, nor am I "ranting errantly"

...people want to win elections? Spending the next 4 years proclaiming how righteously aggrieved they are, isn't gonna win any. Now, as for "cool and hip"- what the fuck kind of nonsense is that? Bernie Sanders is a 74 year old frumpy bald guy who sounds like Alan Arkin when he talks. He is no one's definition of "cool and hip". No one fucking voted for him, worked for him, or supported him, because they thought it made them "cool and hip". The only people who thought "cool and hip" was gonna win the election were the Manhattan-ensconced Hillary campaign geniuses who thought getting Jay-Z and Katy Perry to endorse her, or sending her on Ellen to do the "nae nae"- was any sort of substitute for having a ground game in Michigan or talking about jobs to unemployed Wisconsinites.
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