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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders wistful about a missed matchup against Trump: 'I wish to God I'd had the opportunity' [View all]frazzled
(18,402 posts)61. Stop it
He didn't get the chance because 3 million fewer people voted for him in the primaries. He LOST. Get over it. He would have been decimated in the general, based on that paltry support alone. The Democrats and the Clinton campaign treated him with kid gloves. They could have hit him hard with a ton of stuff (which they never did, because they didn't have to: they were far ahead all the time). But the Republicans would have. Here's just a part of what Kurt Eichenwald describes from their oppo research, which consisted of a book "2-feet thick":
I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers.
Here are a few tastes of what was in store for Sanders, straight out of the Republican playbook: He thinks rape is A-OK. In 1972, when he was 31, Sanders wrote a fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men. Yes, there is an explanation for ita long, complicated one, just like the one that would make clear why the Clinton emails story was nonsense. And we all know how well that worked out.
Then theres the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, and that he stole electricity from a neighbor after failing to pay his bills, and that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermonts nuclear waste to a poor Hispanic community in Texas, where it could be dumped. You can just see the words environmental racist on Republican billboards. And if you cant, I already did. They were in the Republican opposition research book as a proposal on how to frame the nuclear waste issue.
Also on the list: Sanders violated campaign finance laws, criticized Clinton for supporting the 1994 crime bill that he voted for, and he voted against the Amber Alert system. His pitch for universal health care would have been used against him too, since it was tried in his home state of Vermont and collapsed due to excessive costs. Worst of all, the Republicans also had video of Sanders at a 1985 rally thrown by the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua where half a million people chanted, Here, there, everywhere/the Yankee will die, while President Daniel Ortega condemned state terrorism by America. Sanders said, on camera, supporting the Sandinistas was patriotic.
http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
Here are a few tastes of what was in store for Sanders, straight out of the Republican playbook: He thinks rape is A-OK. In 1972, when he was 31, Sanders wrote a fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men. Yes, there is an explanation for ita long, complicated one, just like the one that would make clear why the Clinton emails story was nonsense. And we all know how well that worked out.
Then theres the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, and that he stole electricity from a neighbor after failing to pay his bills, and that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermonts nuclear waste to a poor Hispanic community in Texas, where it could be dumped. You can just see the words environmental racist on Republican billboards. And if you cant, I already did. They were in the Republican opposition research book as a proposal on how to frame the nuclear waste issue.
Also on the list: Sanders violated campaign finance laws, criticized Clinton for supporting the 1994 crime bill that he voted for, and he voted against the Amber Alert system. His pitch for universal health care would have been used against him too, since it was tried in his home state of Vermont and collapsed due to excessive costs. Worst of all, the Republicans also had video of Sanders at a 1985 rally thrown by the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua where half a million people chanted, Here, there, everywhere/the Yankee will die, while President Daniel Ortega condemned state terrorism by America. Sanders said, on camera, supporting the Sandinistas was patriotic.
http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
Let me at 'em, let me at 'em! I'da beat him bloody. What ego, for someone who lost the primary by 12 points.
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Bernie Sanders wistful about a missed matchup against Trump: 'I wish to God I'd had the opportunity' [View all]
FarCenter
Nov 2016
OP
Wait, Trump can brag about grabbing p***y without penalty, but some "file" on Bernie was
yodermon
Nov 2016
#50
That's a false trope being perpetuated by some of her supporters. Check his schedule.
JudyM
Nov 2016
#13
I agree, Sanders campaigned hard for her. Now Sanders supporters, that's a different story.
Hoyt
Nov 2016
#29
Hey. Sanders was screwed by the primary process, let's not go there. The vast majority of us voted
JudyM
Nov 2016
#63
Maybe they did vote, but they called her a crook and everything else Trump used against her.
Hoyt
Nov 2016
#69
So, doesn't make it right and I think it hurt us. Sanders' supporters who continued criticizing
Hoyt
Nov 2016
#79
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it ..
GummyBearz
Dec 2016
#123
Or nice going, Hillary. It's the substance of her actions that were of importance, after all.
JudyM
Dec 2016
#154
Worked his ass off for Hillary... with little appreciation as you can see here.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#132
He had a book to promote instead, i.e. cashing in the same way he criticizes others for.
BobbyDrake
Dec 2016
#102
Um, wrong. He doesn't criticize anyone for making money. He criticizes corruption.
JudyM
Dec 2016
#139
Apparently you haven't been reading this board through the past year, you have some catching
JudyM
Dec 2016
#157
"Clearly not worth the time to re-present it" means you have nothing. As expected.
BobbyDrake
Dec 2016
#158
Bernie went very easy on Hillary IMHO... coulda woulda shoulda done things differently.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#137
Well I think the party needed some criticism but I can understand the frustration
NWCorona
Dec 2016
#147
Yeah, not sure exactly what that strawman shit is about -"poor baby." Should he have said,
JCanete
Nov 2016
#74
Polls also showed Hillary beating Sanders in the rust belt by huge amounts
Quixote1818
Dec 2016
#103
If you hadn't noticed, most Washington "Democrats" aren't Democrats anymore.
Barack_America
Nov 2016
#80
He said he was elected as an independent and would serve as one. I don't have any problem with that.
Kentonio
Nov 2016
#56
He went back to being an independent. He switched to run for president only.
Demsrule86
Dec 2016
#92
That never seems to matter with this vacuous argument. Based on nothing but oft asserted.
JudyM
Dec 2016
#140
he's being honest, and he did concede that a 3 month campaign can change a lot.
geek tragedy
Nov 2016
#19
Yes we she have all lined up behind Clinton and Bernie should not have run in such
Demsrule86
Dec 2016
#94
I agree with your feelings about where we are now but as you might guess, hold the view that the
JudyM
Dec 2016
#100
There are several things that cost Democrats the election this year.
Act_of_Reparation
Dec 2016
#153
Thank you Senator Sanders & Hillary Clinton. We, the popular vote winners need you more than ever.
Sunlei
Nov 2016
#23
well that was convincing. That as a very Trump-worthy "Trust me, I saw it." Fuck that noise.
JCanete
Nov 2016
#75
What "victim" routine. This was about whether Bernie could have won, and whether
JCanete
Nov 2016
#84
Do I really have to tell your racist ass that black voters live in other states?
SaschaHM
Nov 2016
#85