Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

NNadir

(36,791 posts)
56. I think that we don't proselytise with our atheism because we are not...
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 08:07 AM
22 hrs ago

...in the position of having to defend a belief in the absurd.

I was always amused by the report I read somewhere about the early Roman Christian writer Tertullian, who is said to remarked, "I believe because it's absurd."

That strikes me as precisely the reason to reject the whole business.

Similarly the argument in "intelligent design" is a bit of human hubris, since there is no evidence that any human has ever put together a universe with galaxies stretching as far as can be seen.

I am fine with stating that the Universe has a quality that is ineffable, but by definition that means no quality of it's existence can possibly hold water, certainly one with an assumed anthropomorphic consciousness.

I don't think that sheep herders on the eastern shore of the Mediterranean Sea really had insight to anything quite so profound as say, the existence of atoms, quantum mechanics, or relativity.

Recommendations

1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

I am polite and respectful. My family is also. Srkdqltr Oct 5 #1
Out as an atheist. joshdawg Oct 5 #2
I certainly respect your view. I'm not there myself, but I respect it. NNadir Oct 5 #6
I say I'm not religious, I'm philosophical about my morals Nigrum Cattus Oct 5 #3
My family was also seriously catholic buzzycrumbhunger Oct 5 #4
"... the easter bunny left me a book with tarot cards in my basket..." CrispyQ Oct 5 #9
LOL at that last toon! Bayard Oct 5 #17
Darn... GiqueCee 21 hrs ago #58
Yeah, I set my images to delete in 2 weeks, but here you go. CrispyQ 20 hrs ago #61
THANKS! GiqueCee 18 hrs ago #63
Wish I had the ovum to be a bitch. Collimator Oct 5 #10
I think being female adds another layer... buzzycrumbhunger Oct 5 #22
Standing up for yourself isn't "bitchy" IbogaProject Oct 6 #41
Over the course of my life every Atheist I have met BigmanPigman Oct 6 #45
In some certian circumstances i will show respect gay texan Oct 5 #5
I certainly am not "closeted" with complete strangers. I'll do it to avoid pain for people I love. NNadir Oct 5 #8
Yes..... gay texan Oct 5 #25
I used to work with a Sikh. The Madcap 22 hrs ago #53
All of them were so very kind gay texan 6 hrs ago #64
I am pretty much where you are rurallib Oct 6 #40
exactly!! samnsara 23 hrs ago #50
If you really want to get them fired up The Madcap 22 hrs ago #51
Seems only other heathens would be aware that you didn't bow your head. CrispyQ Oct 5 #7
I do a fair amount of woodworking for churches. Woodwizard Oct 5 #11
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called a twodogsbarking Oct 5 #12
I like that locution. Hopefully you will not be offended if I steal it regularly. NNadir Oct 5 #13
Epicurean paradox is another zinger IbogaProject Oct 6 #42
I am out as an agnostic NewHendoLib Oct 5 #14
I feel safely out with professional colleagues, but very closeted with family. Religion strong on both sides of the tree eppur_se_muova Oct 5 #15
I suspect that Thomas Jefferson was an atheist. I also believe, although he clearly was changed by the Civil War... NNadir Oct 5 #19
with TFG... NewLarry Oct 5 #36
Closeted. I'm afraid if MAGA and the crappy fundies. AllyCat Oct 5 #16
I am an out Atheist. Eko Oct 5 #18
Closeted agnostic anciano Oct 5 #20
utterly out mike_c Oct 5 #21
Unapologetic atheist. no_hypocrisy Oct 5 #23
An interesting story. Your father could accept your atheism just so long as you weren't Muslim. NNadir Oct 5 #24
Oh, there's more. I "came out" to my mother. no_hypocrisy Oct 5 #26
I consider myself agnostic Skittles Oct 5 #27
That's pretty close to where I'm at. n/t. NNadir Oct 5 #31
I was closeted when my parents were alive. Girard442 Oct 5 #28
If they are obnoxious in my place, they cannot do what animals do. GreenWave Oct 5 #29
If ask I often say I'm a Red Letter Christian. multigraincracker Oct 5 #30
There is a blogger known as "Captain Cassidy". . . Collimator 22 hrs ago #55
I openly admit I'm an Atheist LogDog75 Oct 5 #32
Out. sinkingfeeling Oct 5 #33
Open atheist. tblue37 Oct 5 #34
Closeted church musician atheist oberle Oct 5 #35
Every Christmas, my wife and I travel up to Bethlehem, PA for the Lehigh University Christmas Vespers. NNadir Oct 5 #37
I'm respectful to others, but... wysimdnwyg Oct 5 #38
Yep I don't seek it out but I will participate if I go IbogaProject Oct 6 #39
It's rather amazing that our experience is so similar. NNadir Oct 6 #44
I am out because I want to normalize non-believers Envirogal Oct 6 #43
" Atheists are very feared. . ." Collimator 21 hrs ago #57
Proudly Open Faux pas Oct 7 #46
very much out Brainstormy Oct 10 #47
I am much more out now than I was 20 years ago. Cuthbert Allgood Monday #48
nope! There are folks I dont flaunt it in front of because I respect their beliefs... samnsara Thursday #49
Been 'open' since I was a teen... MiHale 22 hrs ago #52
I don't flaunt it... buzzycrumbhunger 22 hrs ago #54
I think that we don't proselytise with our atheism because we are not... NNadir 22 hrs ago #56
I've always referred to myself... GiqueCee 21 hrs ago #59
I've been an open (and sometimes loud) atheist since '75 -misanthroptimist 20 hrs ago #60
I will tell people I'm a non-believer, but will be respectful of their rituals. sinkingfeeling 20 hrs ago #62
Latest Discussions»Alliance Forums»Atheists & Agnostics»Are You a Closeted Atheis...»Reply #56