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DetlefK

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22. "Don't put God into a situation where he has to obey rules."
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:00 AM
Apr 2016

Lucifer tempting God in the desert consists of 3 trials.

Lucifer challenges Jesus to turn rocks into bread. Jesus says it doesn't work that way. (It would only satisfy his bodily hunger, not his spiritual hunger, so he doesn't do it at all.)

Lucifer brings Jesus to a high place and challenges him to jump and have god save him. Jesus says it doesn't work that way. (Don't tempt God.)

Lucifer offers Jesus rulership over Earth if he switches sides. Jesus tells him to go away. (I find it really strange that Jesus doesn't call Lucifer a liar for that. How could Lucifer possibly offer Jesus this rulership??? Doesn't this implicitly mean that Lucifer really has the power to decide who rules Earth???)

A truly glorious victory for Jesus...





Don't tempt God. I read it as "don't put God into a situation where he has to obey rules".

1. I think, this somehow defines God as untestable. You cannot and shalt not try to find out more about God by doing experiments on God.

2. God is the Supreme Being. He is not bound by laws of nature. (Well, the concept of laws of nature was pretty convoluted back then.) He is only bound by his own will. If you set up a scenario where God has to decide between option A and option B, you are denying that God can do whatever he wants. You are forcing him into a situation where you decide what he can do. You are implicitly denying that God is the Supreme being.

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I have a stupid question [View all] Freelancer Apr 2016 OP
You shouldn't offer him apples Lordquinton Apr 2016 #1
Where was that one? Warpy Apr 2016 #2
I've been around for 60 years Cartoonist Apr 2016 #3
It's something JC said. I googled it. It's in Deuteronomy chapter of the Bible -nt Freelancer Apr 2016 #10
You might try asking over in the Religion group. mr blur Apr 2016 #4
! rurallib Apr 2016 #15
So I had to look this up kdmorris Apr 2016 #5
Luke 4:12, and Deut 6:16 Brainstormy Apr 2016 #6
Yeah, that's fairly sad kdmorris Apr 2016 #7
Following up that first Deut reference, it means "shut up and don't complain, even if you're dying muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #16
I've asked Christians before, and they don't know. I get a lot of gobbledygook. -nt Freelancer Apr 2016 #8
Sorry for being cranky, man kdmorris Apr 2016 #9
No problem. Ever wonder about snake handlers youth ministry? What would that be like? Freelancer Apr 2016 #11
LOL n/t kdmorris Apr 2016 #12
Well, I guess I have a stupid answer for you. Curmudgeoness Apr 2016 #13
There's some real heaviness in that one link -- a lot to unpack. Ugh. -nt Freelancer Apr 2016 #17
You ask. You get an answer. Curmudgeoness Apr 2016 #18
I think I get it... Freelancer Apr 2016 #20
Blind faith, babe! nt Curmudgeoness Apr 2016 #23
does anyone remember the episode of mash restorefreedom Apr 2016 #14
I don't remember that one. There is one quote that has always stayed with me, though. Freelancer Apr 2016 #19
classic! burns had some great zingers. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #21
"Don't put God into a situation where he has to obey rules." DetlefK Apr 2016 #22
Off Topic awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #24
"Don't you fucking test me. Don't you ever fucking test me." Iggo Apr 2016 #25
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