Atheists & Agnostics

Warren DeMontague

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14. You're right that we'll never know. I sure dont.

Mon Sep 28, 2015, 03:12 PM

Sep 2015

But i also have an intrinsic - maybe "rabble rousing" - instinct to challenge widely held assumptions that seem to be based more on what "everybody knows" than actual evidence. And if you read into it, there are some solid arguments to back up the "no historical jesus" line.

http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/home.htm

For one, the cults were pretty common, and these mystery cults did not all have a leader, per se. Two, JTB probably was real, and some of his life was likely incorporated into the Jesus story. Three, there are lots of elements of Jesus's "life" which, again, parallel the stories of Mithras, Osiris, etc.

But it's a not-resolvable debate, as you say.. and i sure dont bother getting into it with hard core believers. But i find it interesting to think about.

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I dont know if that's true, in the case of Jesus. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #4

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You're right that we'll never know. I sure dont. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #14

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