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1. How do we know Jesus was not gay?
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 02:52 AM
Sep 2015
Was Jesus gay? Probably
Paul Oestreicher

I preached on Good Friday that Jesus's intimacy with John suggested he was gay as I felt deeply it had to be addressed

Preaching on Good Friday on the last words of Jesus as he was being executed makes great spiritual demands on the preacher. The Jesuits began this tradition. Many Anglican churches adopted it. Faced with this privilege in New Zealand's capital city, Wellington, my second home, I was painfully aware of the context, a church deeply divided worldwide over issues of gender and sexuality. Suffering was my theme. I felt I could not escape the suffering of gay and lesbian people at the hands of the church, over many centuries.

Was that divisive issue a subject for Good Friday? For the first time in my ministry I felt it had to be. Those last words of Jesus would not let me escape. "When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, 'Woman behold your son!' Then he said to the disciple. 'Behold your mother!' And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home."

That disciple was John whom Jesus, the gospels affirm, loved in a special way. All the other disciples had fled in fear. Three women but only one man had the courage to go with Jesus to his execution. That man clearly had a unique place in the affection of Jesus. In all classic depictions of the Last Supper, a favourite subject of Christian art, John is next to Jesus, very often his head resting on Jesus's breast. Dying, Jesus asks John to look after his mother and asks his mother to accept John as her son. John takes Mary home. John becomes unmistakably part of Jesus's family.

Jesus was a Hebrew rabbi. Unusually, he was unmarried. The idea that he had a romantic relationship with Mary Magdalene is the stuff of fiction, based on no biblical evidence. The evidence, on the other hand, that he may have been what we today call gay is very strong. But even gay rights campaigners in the church have been reluctant to suggest it. A significant exception was Hugh Montefiore, bishop of Birmingham and a convert from a prominent Jewish family. He dared to suggest that possibility and was met with disdain, as though he were simply out to shock.

After much reflection and with certainly no wish to shock, I felt I was left with no option but to suggest, for the first time in half a century of my Anglican priesthood, that Jesus may well have been homosexual. Had he been devoid of sexuality, he would not have been truly human. To believe that would be heretical.

Heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual: Jesus could have been any of these. There can be no certainty which. The homosexual option simply seems the most likely.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/apr/20/was-jesus-gay-probably

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How do we know Jesus was not gay? Yorktown Sep 2015 #1
I don't know that he existed at all. I certainly don't believe in the mythical Jesus. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #2
Well, there probably was a proto-Jesus and a proto-muhamad Yorktown Sep 2015 #3
I dont know if that's true, in the case of Jesus. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #4
While your opinion has merits, my hunch is on some Jesus hippie guru Yorktown Sep 2015 #5
I totally disagree. Lucky Luciano Sep 2015 #6
Splitter!! (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #9
Some members of my family agree with you Yorktown Sep 2015 #10
You're right that we'll never know. I sure dont. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #14
I suspect JC is a composite. onager Sep 2015 #7
Persecuted for his faith.. mountain grammy Sep 2015 #8
If it ever happens to me again I may get fired too. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #18
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I remember that one. Iggo Sep 2015 #12
Yep, I remember. I lost my job partially because I wouldn't join the prayer meetings at work. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #16
well our now-tombstoned friend seemed to think Heddi Sep 2015 #20
You said it. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #21
Religious harassment is as vile as sexual harassment Heddi Sep 2015 #22
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That's good to hear. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #19
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