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wnylib

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10. I agree about irrigation as a marker
Sat Sep 17, 2022, 12:54 AM
Sep 2022

of civilization.

I also question how civilization is defined. The Inca, for example, never developed a writing system, but are often referred to as a civilization and had a unique record keeping system.

Coincidentally, the Iroquois in what is now NY, also used a knotting system of shell strings for records and contracts between individuals, used woven shell belts depicting symbols as treaties, and had a sophisticated governing system with an oral "constitution." They had semi domesticated animals, horticulture, semi permanent towns and villages, a massive trade network, but were not a civilization. They had no permanent structures or monuments and no urban centers.

Many societies have had impressive social/political structures or material structures without reaching a state that we would call civilization. Others, like the Aztecs were definitely civilizations, but resolved some things in unique ways.



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age Slammer Sep 2022 #1
"what is likely a restored ziggurat" ? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #2
Yep, that was feeble! Judi Lynn Sep 2022 #8
Atlantis may be the oldest, if it is ever proven. RipVanWinkle Sep 2022 #3
Interesting NewEnglandAutumn Sep 2022 #4
And then there's Gbekli Tepe dhol82 Sep 2022 #5
Fabulous documentary about the Fall of the First Cities pecosbob Sep 2022 #6
I thought it was the Villages in Central Florida. rubbersole Sep 2022 #7
Depends on how you define civilization Warpy Sep 2022 #9
I agree about irrigation as a marker wnylib Sep 2022 #10
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