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ancianita

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5. No. An actual document. Not "alleged." And why not. A thousand years from now, can any of your descendants say
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 05:26 PM
Jan 2024

that one remaining Declaration of Independence document is "alleged" and in no way proves that you lived in the oldest democracy in history? Get me?

In human history, archeologists show that of the million things they've discovered, there's only one of most of them. Reasonable doubt exists about hundreds of single pieces of historical evidence. Take your pick -- which of those you want to believe and/or dismiss.

If it weren't for one Poggio Bracciolini, a 15th-century papal emissary and obsessive book hunter who saved the last copy of the Roman poet Lucretius's De rerum natura (On the Nature of Things) from near-disappearance, we'd never know of the important ideas that sparked the modern age, including Lucretius's laying out of matter being made of atoms. Oh, sure. One document.

It took the papacy of the first Christian church, the Catholic Church -- yeah, it IS Christian -- 400 years to accept that Galileo and Bruno Giordano were right -- the Earth revolves around the sun.

Trumpers would agree with you, that when one wants to hold to being right, no amount of evidence will change that.

I gave a "broad summary," choosing one example of what I found. But I've already made the effort to research the historicity of some 80 authors of the canon, and you likely haven't. I'm not going to spend my time here doing it for you.

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