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patphil

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28. There's always been a big difference between religion and spirituality
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:32 AM
Oct 2019

Religion is man made. It's invariably founded on spiritual truth, but that truth gets lost over time as the people who run the religion insert their views and/or interpretations into the mix and overwrite the original spiritual message.
Constantine did this to the teachings of Jesus.
King Ashoka did this to the teachings of Buddha
Brigham Young did this to the teachings of Joseph Smith.
Islamic Generals did this to the teachings of Muhammad.
I doubt if there is a single major religion that hasn't been perverted by self-serving, corrupt, power hungry people.
And, of course, religions continue to attract people who use their religion's doctrine as a tool to dominate and control others (Barr's moral order).
Heaven save us from the religious "zealot", especially when they get the power to force their will on others.
William Barr is one of those people.

Spirituality comes from the understanding of, and adherence to, the original message that was given to us from one who was truly enlightened.
It's never exclusive, always inclusive.
It doesn't looks for ways to suppress people, always to lift them up.
It doesn't divide people, always calls to unify them.
Spiritual truth doesn't look to establish a "moral order". It works on a much higher level. It speaks to the heart and the soul, and those who adhere to the message automatically treat each other with love and respect.


Patrick Phillips



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K&R ck4829 Oct 2019 #1
We should always listen carefully when Bolshevik Barr tells us who he is. abqtommy Oct 2019 #2
Anecdotally Newest Reality Oct 2019 #3
It is the whole 'conservative' side of any 'religion,' pangaia Oct 2019 #6
Thanks! Newest Reality Oct 2019 #8
Recent Pew Research results on religious affiliation show significant declines. Lonestarblue Oct 2019 #10
Yeah, that ole 'gay agenda' really has them worried.. pangaia Oct 2019 #15
Yes, Newest Reality Oct 2019 #16
+1 orangecrush Oct 2019 #22
There are "Evangelical" Catholics. saidsimplesimon Oct 2019 #9
Well, well... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #13
Me neither orangecrush Oct 2019 #23
This is in conservative, red Arizona. saidsimplesimon Oct 2019 #27
Most liberal Catholic scholars call them defacto7 Oct 2019 #31
Yes, you raised a valid concern. saidsimplesimon Oct 2019 #33
Barr's real Pope and God, is Trump Bretton Garcia Oct 2019 #34
"Not all Christians are the same and that should be made clear." Mariana Oct 2019 #36
We may know that... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #37
If it's called a "religion"? Then someone noted its generic similarity to other religions. Bretton Garcia Oct 2019 #38
The old Ohiogal Oct 2019 #4
Thanks for posting. I was just about to. pangaia Oct 2019 #5
Well WTF is hiding in Barr's closet? Project much? 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #7
His and Pompeo's aspiring theocracy are quite alarming. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #11
pensepensepense pangaia Oct 2019 #17
Truetruetrue. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #21
Yepyepyep. orangecrush Oct 2019 #24
a " campaign to destroy the traditional moral order" Martin Eden Oct 2019 #12
Religious zealots, no matter their religion, are a direct threat to our democracy dlk Oct 2019 #14
According to Franklin Graham and Jeffers, Catholics are not real Christians anyway. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #18
Barr a crazed religious zealot- that explains a lot. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2019 #19
Religion is just another fascist tool to take it all, rule it all. nt yaesu Oct 2019 #20
One who worships conservative presidents Bretton Garcia Oct 2019 #39
Fish fry Fridays were good! SCVDem Oct 2019 #25
😮 seta1950 Oct 2019 #26
There's always been a big difference between religion and spirituality patphil Oct 2019 #28
Thank you BunnyMcGee Oct 2019 #30
'Devout' 'faith'. Mc Mike Oct 2019 #29
So is he actually a pre Vat II Catholic or is this a new angle defacto7 Oct 2019 #32
Barr is a political, right wing "Catholic" Bretton Garcia Oct 2019 #35
Opus Dei. Mc Mike Oct 2019 #40
Yup; partly. Bretton Garcia Oct 2019 #41
Is Barr in Opus Dei, secretly? Bretton Garcia Oct 2019 #42
Barr recognizes the importance of religion to American democracy.. Permanut Oct 2019 #43
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