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guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
Fri May 10, 2019, 07:00 PM May 2019

Oppression, and what it says about humanity. [View all]

Last edited Tue May 14, 2019, 04:26 PM - Edit history (1)

I recently wrote a post, one of a series, dealing with the well know oppression that the Chinese Government is directing at the Uighur Muslim minority in eastern China.
One of the responses was as follows:

Wed May 8, 2019, 05:31 AM
Bretton Garcia (816 posts)
75. American law restricts some religions implicitly though

If your religion requires unwilling human sacrifice for instance.

So not ALL religious practices are completely honored. Not if they break the law, and hurt other people.

So when the US and China confront religious, Muslim terrorism? We might honor much of Islam; but not if or where it links to what we consider murder.

Since the Chinese live in very close. even overlapping proximity to terrorist Islamic factions, they have chosen to "re-educate" some Chinese Muslims. Emphasizing one hopes the peaceful side of Islam.

In any case, that is what some have recently done in the West. Though not by camps. But in the media, stressing the peaceful side of all religions.

Edited:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1218&pid=313602

Let us deconstruct this reply, starting here:

So, when the US and China confront religious, Muslim terrorism? We might honor much of Islam; but not if or where it links to what we consider murder.

The poster has apparently decided to classify all of these victims of persecution as terrorists. Thus, providing no actual proof of the truth of his assertion, he can ignore what is being done by the Chinese Government.

Second, we have this bit of creative framing:

Since the Chinese live in very close. even overlapping proximity to terrorist Islamic factions, they have chosen to "re-educate" some Chinese Muslims. Emphasizing one hopes the peaceful side of Islam.

So, having framed all of the Uighur Muslims as members of “terrorist Islamic factions”, we can again ignore the reality of what is happening in China.

And the acceptance of the Chinese Government line that these are “re-education camps” allows the poster to blame the victims for their own persecution.

I have posted numerous articles detailing what is being done to the Uighur Muslims by the Chinese Government. The poster has provided zero evidence to rebut what numerous sources have detailed. The poster has chosen instead to accept the Chinese Government line at face value.

The point of my articles about the brutal oppression of the Uighur Muslims in China is to show how autocrats oppress people. And how autocrats divide people, and demonize factions as a way of facilitating the oppression.

In this case, the autocrats in question are atheists, and the victims are theists.

And that fact, in my view, is why these posts provoke such a strong reaction.



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catholic church (theists) have been "re-educating" billions of people for 2000 yrs msongs May 2019 #1
Anything to say about the substance of this post? guillaumeb May 2019 #2
He can feel free to reply in any case. MineralMan May 2019 #3
Yes, anyone can reply. guillaumeb May 2019 #4
Yes it was. Why do you do that? MineralMan May 2019 #7
The answer to that question has already been given Major Nikon May 2019 #14
And the link leads to the original thread. guillaumeb May 2019 #5
The link leads to a reply by me in that thread. MineralMan May 2019 #6
You are incorrect. guillaumeb May 2019 #8
Actually, I'm not incorrect. MineralMan May 2019 #9
Interesting to me, and disturbing, guillaumeb May 2019 #10
Fix the link and we can talk again. MineralMan May 2019 #11
This posting refers to another, and essentially will end up often duplicating it. Bretton Garcia May 2019 #12
The original discussion link: Bretton Garcia May 2019 #13
You admitted that you have not read the psots about China. guillaumeb May 2019 #15
You still have not corrected the link in your OP. MineralMan May 2019 #16
I have read the one article, which you presented as chief evidence Bretton Garcia May 2019 #17
There's a lot of anti China hysteria out there Bretton Garcia May 2019 #18
"Let us deconstruct this reply, starting here:" Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #19
There's actually a better place to start Major Nikon May 2019 #20
Nonsense. guillaumeb May 2019 #23
Why are you linking to MineralMan's post? Do you not understand how links work? AtheistCrusader May 2019 #21
I'm sure he knows. MineralMan May 2019 #22
He has changed that link, MineralMan May 2019 #24
Thank you for finally changing the link. MineralMan May 2019 #25
Gods work in mysterious ways. Voltaire2 May 2019 #26
Loki's like that. MineralMan May 2019 #28
Interesting how you ignore the actual point. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #27
LOL! MineralMan May 2019 #29
Indeed. guillaumeb May 2019 #30
I have no freaking idea what you are talking about, now... MineralMan May 2019 #31
I am not surprised. guillaumeb May 2019 #32
What? No, I don't. I did not add that to my permanent data list. MineralMan May 2019 #33
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