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AtheistCrusader

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15. I haven't logged in or looked at DU in a couple years, but this whataboutism is just too ridiculous
Fri May 3, 2019, 01:42 PM
May 2019

to be allowed to stand.

You DAMN WELL KNOW communism is a state theocracy. It is a political religion that permits no competition. It may have an official policy of 'atheism' in disallowing competition, but it remains a theocracy with political word-substitution.

Back in the day, Stalin simply deployed communism with simple word substitution:

Theocracy: A system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.
Communism: A system of government in which the state rules in the name of The Party.

They operate the same. (Particularly if you view entirely theocratic governments as man-made constructs for the purposes of consolidating political power, since after all, no gods appear to actually exist anyway)

Stalin was a seminary student, and just slapped the theocratic template on communism, because he wanted no rivals, no competition. It was a naked power grab, using a well-established theocratic playbook.




Stalin's goal, as he implemented Communism, and the modern Communism variant present in China, is not by any means 'atheistic'. It's simply a monopoly on all political capital. It's what separates Communism and Socialism. Communism seized the means of production and central planning with absolute monopolistic power. It could not tolerate ANY ideological dissent. In non-communist states that are also socialist, faith/religion/church may be separate, or co-mingled as part of government, and *not viewed* as a direct rival to Party Power.

There are, in fact, secular socialist countries that do not view religion/faith as a direct rival to state authority. Funny you never use them as examples. (Because they are antitheses to your agenda.)


Your tired flogging of China as a Atheistic State Boogey-man both misunderstands Communism, and Atheism. In the vein of 'whataboutism', it borders on 'yellow journalism' type smears, which I think you should be ashamed of. (somewhat ironic because 'whataboutism' was a soviet propaganda technique) Please educate yourself, and cease abusing the Chinese for your feeble attempt to make 'atheism' look 'as bad as theism'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism#Soviet_Union_period

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