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guillaumeb

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11. What she said was:

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:09 PM

Apr 2019

It’s happening organically. People are unsettled with something in the environmental movement. I come from an environmental activist background, and I know that burns people out when they don’t have that direct experience (of the sacred). The natural world is not a collection of objects but a communion of subjects.

Did she say "all people", or "every person"? No, she did not. So you are assuming that she meant all people. Not all people speak as if they are being interviewed by a lawyer.

My view is that you looked for evidence of something and are certain that you found it.

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Wild Church founder Victoria Loorz finds resurrection on Easter and Earth Day [View all] guillaumeb Apr 2019 OP

Oh, boy...stretching credulity in search of being meaningful. MineralMan Apr 2019 #1

Expanding our understanding. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #2

"but if you prefer limitations" trotsky Apr 2019 #3

And is this a snide attack? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #6

#1, there you go again with "eye for an eye" justice. So Christian of you. trotsky Apr 2019 #13

Was your response a snide attack, or an open attack? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #15

This is about your attack, g. trotsky Apr 2019 #16

No, it started with your attempt to misframe. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #18

No, it didn't. trotsky Apr 2019 #20

Oh, really? MineralMan Apr 2019 #4

The excerpted paragraph appears to claim that your environmentalism will fail without jesus. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #5

She is obviously speaking of those, and to those, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #7

No it isn't obvious at all that she was referring Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #8

Only those seeking the divine would feel the lack. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #9

She explicitly claims that people without Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #10

What she said was: guillaumeb Apr 2019 #11

The set is people in the environmental movement. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #12

The word "people" means many things. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #14

Perhaps instead of dismissing what others are trying to tell you, you should listen instead. trotsky Apr 2019 #17

When others attempt to insert a meaning into a statement, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #19

Listen. trotsky Apr 2019 #21

Please provide any evidence at all that Victoria Loorz meant to restrict Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #22

You made an assertion. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #23

er, no, the paragraph you posted in your op is clearly talking about people in the environmental Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #24

You made an assertion based on what you claim is her intent. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #25

Much like when people say "everybody" and you object marylandblue Apr 2019 #26

No, when it is a small number it seems obvious to mention it. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #27

Thereby selectively claiming something is an idiom when it suits your purpose marylandblue Apr 2019 #28

An entire subthread devoted to diversion. guillaumeb May 2019 #34

"OK for me, not for thee." trotsky May 2019 #29

It's the Gott mit uns effect, perhaps. MineralMan May 2019 #30

Indeed. trotsky May 2019 #31

Non-believers are fair game for everyone, it seems. MineralMan May 2019 #32

Among Chinese authoritarians as well? guillaumeb May 2019 #35

here is the phrase in question Voltaire2 May 2019 #33

This is evidence of your own interpretation of her use of an idiom. guillaumeb May 2019 #36

Please provide your evidence Voltaire2 May 2019 #37

Reread my response. guillaumeb May 2019 #38

please provide the evidence that supports your interpretation. Voltaire2 May 2019 #39

There is none for your own. guillaumeb May 2019 #40

actually there is and I posted it. Voltaire2 May 2019 #41

No, you posted your own idiosyncratic interpretation guillaumeb May 2019 #42

Ok let's try this one more time. Voltaire2 May 2019 #43