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In reply to the discussion: Is FAITH compatible with REASON? [View all]

MineralMan

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5. No. Faith is used as a substitute for reason, when reason
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:36 PM
Apr 2019

cannot provide verification of something believed. In religion, reason and logic are used in a different way than in science, for example. By positing that an all-powerful, all-knowing deity exists, anything can be called truth, using an imitation of logical reasoning.

The problem is that the initial premise cannot be shown to be true, and without that premise, the rest of the logic breaks down. Faith is the thing that is used to make the initial premise true, so everything can follow from that.

However, faith is not proof of anything, so the initial premise is not known to be true. It is merely believed to be true. All logic that depends on that initial premise, then, is flawed and void.

All theistic religion is based on that faulty logic and such an initial premise, which often goes unstated, but is referenced in the argument.

The answer to your question is no.



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Not really zipplewrath Apr 2019 #1
Honest faith. MarvinGardens Apr 2019 #3
Yup zipplewrath Apr 2019 #4
It is expressly not, and believers even admit so. trotsky Apr 2019 #2
There's not much "reason" in faith zipplewrath Apr 2019 #6
No. Faith is used as a substitute for reason, when reason MineralMan Apr 2019 #5
So long as faith REQUIRES the suspension of reason... Major Nikon Apr 2019 #7
Yes. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #8
I keep looking for a person of faith who MineralMan Apr 2019 #9
Your answer reveals nothing other than your own opinion. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #10
No. It reveals more than that. MineralMan Apr 2019 #11
I accept that you truly believe this unprovable assertion. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #12
Oh, please... MineralMan Apr 2019 #13
No, I do have faith. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #14
.. MineralMan Apr 2019 #15
Faith means 2+2 equals cabana... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #16
Your own opinion Lordquinton Apr 2019 #17
Theories are not beliefs without evidence Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #18
I have no text to add to this reply... NeoGreen Apr 2019 #19
Many say they are "separate magisteria" or realms Bretton Garcia Apr 2019 #20
Many say Trump is an excellent President. MineralMan Apr 2019 #21
I'd agree that faith is not very compatible with reason Bretton Garcia Apr 2019 #22
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