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MineralMan

(148,357 posts)
43. Well, if you see everyone but yourself as an enemy, you're not going
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:57 PM
Feb 2019

to be able to have much of a discussion.

Right now, intolerance is that person's top issue. But, only from the point of view of intolerance of religion. Now, as for myself, I'm tolerant of all personal religious beliefs, I don't really care what anyone's religious beliefs are. Why would I even know anyone else's religious beliefs, really?

I'm far less tolerant of religious behavior that exhibits intolerance of other ways of thinking. It is behavior that interests me, not beliefs. And far too many religious people are highly intolerant of anyone who doesn't share their particular beliefs. I find that noxious.

I'm not a fan of intolerance, whatever its source. I'm not a fan of the Chinese system of government, either. I have nothing in common with it, except for my nonbelief in deities and other supernatural claptrap. But that common ground has nothing to do with my behavior with regard to other people's beliefs. China is intolerant of religions that object to its social and political structures. That's not a good thing. The mass of evangelical Christian churches is highly intolerant of women who want to control their own reproduction and of people who want to have relationships that are not similar to those of the majority of the population. Both are intolerant. I don't agree with either.

Some people are intolerant of atheists, for whatever reason, and try to find ways to argue, even when there's nothing really to argue about. Just more intolerance.

I'm intolerant of intolerant behavior. That's about the only thing I'm intolerant about. What someone believes is irrelevant to me. How they behave is not irrelevant. If someone's religion encourages intolerance, then I'll have something to say about it.

I don't talk about China here, because this is a place to discuss religion, and China doesn't really have a religion at all.

I like logical discussions. I don't like conclusions drawn through sophistry. I don't like random insults. So, sometimes, there is a conflict here. So be it. I have a tough skin.

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No, but we should care about mixing religion and government Cartoonist Feb 2019 #1
Do we support intolerance, or oppose it? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #2
It depends Cartoonist Feb 2019 #3
Does he ever. trotsky Feb 2019 #5
The church has intolerance codified in the Bible Cartoonist Feb 2019 #6
I asked about a principle. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #7
My principles vs yours Cartoonist Feb 2019 #9
I tolerate those who practice tolerance. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #22
Did you bother reading the article you posted? Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #19
You'll get no answer, I predict. MineralMan Feb 2019 #21
Been a week and your prediction has come true! Lordquinton Mar 2019 #47
Mmmmmmmmmmmm guillaumeb Feb 2019 #23
I don't see any sarcasm... tonedevil Feb 2019 #26
We disagree. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #28
The theists in question... tonedevil Feb 2019 #31
And the Cuban Government, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #35
At this time in history... tonedevil Feb 2019 #38
So basically you once again didn't actually read the article Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #32
So edhopper Feb 2019 #27
Interesting how you created that position for me. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #29
I don't support the Cuban government edhopper Feb 2019 #30
I focused on the intolerance for religion. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #34
I am intolerant of religions edhopper Feb 2019 #37
The most intolerant organization I know of is the Roman Catholic Church. MineralMan Feb 2019 #14
"Interesting that another officially secular Government exhibits the exact same intolerance..." trotsky Feb 2019 #4
Given my many posts, your question ia actually an accusation. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #8
I'll answer your question: No. trotsky Feb 2019 #10
As long as that secular governemnt was not repressive, (see China), guillaumeb Feb 2019 #24
Well then, now you have a much bigger question to answer. trotsky Feb 2019 #40
No, you have an endless series of questions guillaumeb Feb 2019 #45
Nope, you rail against secular government intolerance... trotsky Mar 2019 #46
Which religious governments today edhopper Feb 2019 #41
? Blind Cartoonist Feb 2019 #11
He already lives under an officially secular government. MineralMan Feb 2019 #13
He knows damn well secular governments are far superior to theocracies. trotsky Feb 2019 #15
Of course there's something wrong with "this religion thing." MineralMan Feb 2019 #16
Intolerance codified. trotsky Feb 2019 #17
See, it's only intolerance if you disagree with it. MineralMan Feb 2019 #18
Wishing? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #25
Dude. The US Government is also a secular government. MineralMan Feb 2019 #12
Is intolerance only an issue for you when the intolerant ones are theists? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #36
What makes you think that? This is the Religion Group, MineralMan Feb 2019 #39
Might as well just use a template. trotsky Feb 2019 #42
Well, if you see everyone but yourself as an enemy, you're not going MineralMan Feb 2019 #43
Only your many comments trying to divert from Chinese Governmental intolerance. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #44
Does anyone want to take a guess as to which issue Mariana Feb 2019 #20
Catholics harassing Protestants is evidence of the evils of secularism? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #33
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