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MineralMan

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16. God, of course, has nothing whatever to do with it.

Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:06 PM

Jan 2019

I don't believe any such entity exists. This is an institutional problem - an institution created by and maintained by humans, not deities. From the very beginning, the Roman Catholic church has given refuge to its clergy, protecting it from secular control as far as possible. The Church has always believed that it was above the secular law. While the Church often meddled in government areas, it always held itself apart when it came to laws and other legal matters.

There's no deity involved at all. Those protections are purely a human imperative the Church has always supported. That attitude has been the source of considerable harm over a couple of millennia.

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According to one person here, child sexual abuse is inevitable [View all] MineralMan Jan 2019 OP

It is almost as if somebody was making excuses Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #1

It's difficult to even follow the illogic being used. MineralMan Jan 2019 #2

An even bigger factor is the deterrent Major Nikon Jan 2019 #4

I think the deterrent effect is really not a big factor in child sexual abuse. MineralMan Jan 2019 #5

Consider why a potential child rapist would be attracted to a priest job in the first place Major Nikon Jan 2019 #7

Yes, of course. The RCC is full of voluntary celibates. MineralMan Jan 2019 #10

The whole celibacy thing makes the church vulnerable marylandblue Jan 2019 #13

Horny young men, too. MineralMan Jan 2019 #15

I suppose if you are a priest it's only natural to make such excuses Major Nikon Jan 2019 #3

If the organization is a religious one, exposure of rank hypocrisy within it MineralMan Jan 2019 #6

Which also equates to tithing money Major Nikon Jan 2019 #8

Oh, yes. Churches depend on getting donations out of their members pockets. MineralMan Jan 2019 #9

Does it really matter edhopper Jan 2019 #11

Yes. That's the argument. MineralMan Jan 2019 #12

So what God wants edhopper Jan 2019 #14

God, of course, has nothing whatever to do with it. MineralMan Jan 2019 #16

I know you don't believe edhopper Jan 2019 #19

Oh, sure. God's the thing, at least in the background. MineralMan Jan 2019 #21

.....What God wants.... Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #28

Won't someone please think of the.... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #17

Oh, I think of the priests. I also wish they'd learn to behave properly. MineralMan Jan 2019 #18

The point being some people want you to think of the priests rather than children being raped Major Nikon Jan 2019 #20

Indeed. MineralMan Jan 2019 #22

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I have reminded him of that many, many times. MineralMan Jan 2019 #30

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