Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: 35 years of gun sales, showing gun control's unintended consequences [View all]jimmy the one
(2,720 posts)guru: The four propositions are not conflicting alternatives, they are complimentary to each other and all inform as to the RKBA that is recognized (not granted, given, created, or established) and secured by the 2nd Amendment . . .
You are a con man. SUDDENLY, after I expose his fraud, surf guru claims there are four propositions, not just one, and they are 'complimentary to each other'.
Guru didn't claim they were 'complimentary' when he posted the following - guru clearly contended breyer felt 'the individual right interpretation is the only interpretation represented in the Court's precedent':
guru 1: Here we see Breyer and the other 3 dissenting Justices agreeing that ALL THREE Heller opinions issued that June day in 2008, all concur with the individual right interpretation.
guru 2: The four dissenting Justices all agree that the individual right interpretation is the only interpretation represented in the Court's precedent.
guru 3: The four dissenting Justices all agree that THE ENTIRE COURT AGREES WITH THOSE STATEMENTS.
Guru didn't mention the other 3 'complimentary' propositions in 2015 when he wrote on DU: 'Heller was 9-0 for the individual right view -- Breyer saying, "I take as a starting point the following four propositions, based on our precedent and todays opinions, to which I believe the entire Court subscribes:
(1) The Amendment protects an individual right" . . . " with no further mention of the other 3 propositions.
Guru just mentioned the 'individual right' proposition and mislead that was what breyer and the 3 other liberal justices were contending. This was and is an intentional egregious misrepresentation by guru as to what breyer was contending.
SUDDENLY guru is caught in his lie, and changes his tune in a pathetic attempt to save face.
Second amendment mythology adherent. Lie after lie. Quoting out of context. Disjointed segments lifted from right wing websites where pro gun spin is the name of the game.
I don't need YMMS abbreviations to hide behind, I say it in plain english - people like this make me sick. Sanctimonious egos with half baked mythologies and twisted reasoning skills. Claiming their rights are being trampled upon by gun control efforts and citing an outdated 230 year old antiquated amendment as their sacred cow. Pathetic under-educated punks who take snippets out of context and inflate them into larger than life talking puppets to hide behind.
Then here, suddenly confronted with the truth, tries to wiggle out with more lies to obscure original lies. This is not the mark of a decent person. It is the mark of a fraud, a charlatan, a trumpian con artist.
Go ahead report my post, I don't give a whit if it gets hidden or I get some sanction. I have such little respect for these types of punks that a warranted excoriation is just part of the battle.
As far as the sanctimonious advice to abandon gun control and face guru's brand of pro gun idiocy, not gonna happen. The truth will remain intact for those who seek it, even when egregious adulterations and distortions occur.
guru: Do you really not know you are arguing a interpretation nobody attaches themselves to anymore?
Go look up the word 'nobody'.