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guillaumeb

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11. And are the members of this unorganized militia ever ordered to join the organized militia?
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:20 PM
Dec 2021

And what does "well-regulated" mean?

I addition, one responder wrote:

The Magistrate (91,957 posts)

1. A Point To Bear In Mind, Sir

A militia does require weapons, and all the way back to feudal levies militiamen were expected to provide their own equipment. This might be by private possession, or by community ownership, served out to militia answering the call.

A point that always interests me is 'bear arms' rather than 'possess arms'. The usage 'bear arms' meant at the time, and for many years after, employment of arms in a military role. A man who had hunted all his life with a rifle but never served in the militia or in regular forces would not ever have 'borne arms' in the parlance of the day. The men writing that document were fairly careful in their choice of words, and if they meant simply the right of the people to possess arms one suspects that is what they would have written, rather than what they did write, the right of the people to bear arms, which places the matter inescapably in the context of military, not civil usage.
When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does


The point is that Scalia was determined to find what was never found prior to his claim that he someone knew the real intent.

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Gunzz are an essential part of freedumb. guillaumeb Dec 2021 #1
Saw it, rec'd it and may I say an excellent post! nt AndyS Dec 2021 #2
Yours is not a mainstream view even within the Democratic party hack89 Dec 2021 #3
The SCOTUS defined what Antonin Scalia pretended to find in the 2nd Amendment. guillaumeb Dec 2021 #4
A view also held by many progressive Democratic leaders hack89 Dec 2021 #5
Au contraire sir. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #6
Except the unorganize militia is for men between 17 and 45 hack89 Dec 2021 #7
As I mentioned in the 3 points I listed per my in practice reference... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #8
I further consider that without an individual RKBA having a militia would be near impossible. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #9
Then what was the point of specifically referring to a "well-regulated militia", guillaumeb Dec 2021 #10
Since you ask... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #12
But the US does have a well-regulated military, guillaumeb Dec 2021 #16
re: "...which eliminates the need for any unregulated militias." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #17
Scalia "found" a right that had been hidden. guillaumeb Dec 2021 #23
Just a few points here discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #27
As to Justice Stevens: guillaumeb Dec 2021 #28
I will reread the dissent and get back to you. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #29
Perhaps this from the dissent will explain my take. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #30
However: guillaumeb Dec 2021 #31
Would that be... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #32
Archaic grammar would be my guess hack89 Dec 2021 #14
Declaratory clause . . . Surf Fishing Guru Dec 2021 #33
And are the members of this unorganized militia ever ordered to join the organized militia? guillaumeb Dec 2021 #11
I think your effort to blame Scalia is a distraction. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #13
In the past but not in the last 100 years hack89 Dec 2021 #15
still trying to make "gunz" a thing, huh? krispos42 Dec 2021 #18
Said the frog in a pot of water . . . AndyS Dec 2021 #20
Only a minority of US residents own guns. guillaumeb Dec 2021 #24
Gun owners outnumber the following minority groups: krispos42 Dec 2021 #26
Perhaps you could explain... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #19
Just read the topics covered in the OP. nt AndyS Dec 2021 #21
R.E. Militia. AndyS Dec 2021 #22
Agreed. Very well argued. eom guillaumeb Dec 2021 #25
Scalia overturned? Surf Fishing Guru Dec 2021 #34
No response ... not surprised. PTWB Dec 2021 #35
Well . . . Surf Fishing Guru Dec 2021 #37
Yes, read the Federalist papers . . . Surf Fishing Guru Dec 2021 #36
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